Stroopy121 Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Yeah I think I might have known that actually, is that the band with the bellend singer Frank something... Frank Carter?xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Because they did a song with Dizzee Rascal or something, didn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 GALLOWS FACT #3452Their guitarist Lags, back in the day, was in a Watford band who kicked around with Captain Everything called My Dad Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 That is a dull fact. I do not like Gallows facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I just looked up the song in the Nixon advert before Hollyoaks. Its a band called Radical Face. They're not that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I just looked up the song in the Nixon advert before Hollyoaks. Its a band called Radical Face. They're not that good.You're not wrong. That song isn't even good past that 30 second clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsby Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 I've never heard of Gallows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I don't get why Golliwogs are racist.xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I don't get why Golliwogs are racist.xxGolliwogg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaSurely depicting all black people as jolly means that it's racist in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Fair enough, so the dolls are considered racist because racist people started calling black people after them?Seems a bit backwards to me to be honest.I also don't get why the 'Jaki' indian doll Christy just mentioned in Pet Hates is racist...xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christy Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Fair enough, so the dolls are considered racist because racist people started calling black people after them?Seems a bit backwards to me to be honest.I also don't get why the 'Jaki' indian doll Christy just mentioned in Pet Hates is racist...xxAs in, you dont understand that she called the doll Jaki because it rhymes with...? Or you understand it and dont think that it is racist?Golliwogs unto themselves are not racist; it is a doll. However, what it represents (the jolly, cartoon black man providing the amusement for white people) is of course racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I don't get why Golliwogs are racist.xxBecause it's based on minstrels / blackface performers, who are widely criticised for playing up very bad old-school stereotypes of black people as grinning, happy-go-lucky, simpletons.Blackface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Ahhhhh.. Yeah I didn't make the rhyming connection, I thought it was another, much more complicated reference...I also didn't realise Golliwogs were based on minstrels. Something new every day.xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Fair enough, so the dolls are considered racist because racist people started calling black people after them?Seems a bit backwards to me to be honest.I also don't get why the 'Jaki' indian doll Christy just mentioned in Pet Hates is racist...xxHmmm, the story book came after the name... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Hmmm, the story book came after the name...Not according to the wiki...After the publication of Upton's first book' date=' the term "golliwog" was used both as a reference to the children's toy and as a generic slang term for Black people.[/quote']xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Because it's based on minstrels / blackface performers, who are widely criticised for playing up very bad old-school stereotypes of black people as grinning, happy-go-lucky, simpletons.Blackface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThose fucking sheep are well out of order. Passively being racist in their fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Not according to the wiki...xxIf you read the whole article the name wasn't made up by the writer, it was taken from another source. It was obviously popularised after the book was published though and started to be widely used in a derogatory manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I did not know that.As I said, something new every day.xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I did not know that.As I said, something new every day.xxIt's like the whole kunta kinte (sp) thing from Roots. It was the name of a character which was the used as a racist slur pretty much throughout the 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Wasn't it also the case that a "wog" was a Westernised Oriental Gentleman? That would mean it was originally intended as a compliment (by the standards of the time!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Wasn't it also the case that a "wog" was a Westernised Oriental Gentleman? That would mean it was originally intended as a compliment (by the standards of the time!).Worthy Oriental Gentlemen. It's a backronym. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Worthy Oriental Gentlemen. It's a backronym.Aye, i would've thought that the term "wog" predates the use of acronyms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 That sounds like an urban myth, like "Known As Male Prostitute" (as in "camp" to describe a gay guy) and "Fornication Under Consent Of the King" as a origin of the word fuck. Good stories behind both, but neither of them are true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christy Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 You made those up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 I didn't. I just know dumb shit from reading snopes.snopes.com: Etymology of Fuckknown as male prostitute - Google SearchCan't find much info on the camp one, but the legend is that the old bill used to arrest male prostitutes and put a sign on their cell reading KAMP - Known As Male Prostitute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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