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ok here something i am curious about,

are lead guitarist an essential part of the band or are they just big headed primadonnas?

btw try and refrain on commenting on my grammar/spelling and general language use, thanks :up:

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A 4/5 piece metal band would usually have 1 lead guitarist integral to the solos and sound of the band. A three piece band will usually have one guitarist (lead guitar by default), still integral to the sound.

However a guitar isn't an essential requirement for any band... so depends from which side you look at this argument.

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No instrument is essential for a band, it really depends on what you want to do. If you have lead guitar parts/a lead guitar player who adds to the sound without being (too) derivative, then go for it. On the other hand, if its just to add numers to a lineup, and 'fit in' with traditional lineups, it seems pretty pointless.

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I'd say they were important, but not essential. You can still whack out a good song with just meaty riffage. But lead guitar is that sweet sweet icing on an already tasty cake! :up: I'll put it this way, I'd much rather have it, than not!

Andy xx

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No instrument is essential for a band' date=' it really depends on what you want to do. If you have lead guitar parts/a lead guitar player who adds to the sound without being (too) derivative, then go for it. On the other hand, if its just to add numers to a lineup, and 'fit in' with traditional lineups, it seems pretty pointless.[/quote']

Totally agree.

They're not essential, but do make for quite a metal sound, if played in a certain way. You will be hard pushed to find a metal band without one.

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favourite band at the moment is Noxagt, which is a bass, drums and a violin.

also love Pale Horse, which is two bassist, no guitars.

In Filthpact, and neither of us play lead as such, just two guitars.

Also apparently in inshallah, which has no guitars.

so.......no.

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Weather Report never used a guitar on any album...

Not true!

I sing the Body Electric has guitar on it.

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Obviously it is genre and style dependent.

Can you do 80s metal without lead guitar? No. It is essential and you have to have the chops to do it well!

Can you play indie without lead guitar? Of Course. I'm just not sure if you can play indie WITH lead guitar...

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being a big headed primadonna has nothing to do with being a lead guitarist. the two might come as a package with some people, but often being a lead guitarist is about making the necessary addition to an existing musical unit. there's no more reason that a lead guitarist should be big headed than a sax player or mandolin player or washboard player should.

/x

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I see that once again there is alot of ideas there :-)

i have to admit that lead instruments have their use one of the greatest composers of all time never used a lead guitar but still had lead instruments.

i probably didnt quite ask my question right though.

what i was supposed to ask is..

in rock and metal (and all the subgroups associated with the 2 styles), lead guitarist (when present) tend to behave as primadonna (once again this is generalisation from my past experience), often covering with their frivolous behaviour, interesting parts of songs. Any ideas on this?

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I would not say it is guitarists particularly showing off as you would think the whole band would have to agree to having solos and where in the song to have them.

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Drums as lead

It could work, although I think a balance is necessary for longevity in this game.

We are all used to the verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-solo-verse-chorus format and we're comfortable with it, but it's nice to hear something different once in a while.

The danger though, in becoming a one-trick pony, being famous for a gimmick rather than for being good.

Samle examples - in my opinion - where the guitar in important, but not the main focus.

We Will Rock You (Queen), United, Take On The World (Judas Priest) are examples of drum-lead numbers. In fact WWRY only has a solo and no real rythyhm guitar!

Two of my personal favourites "Faith Healer" & "Give My Compliments To The Chef" (SAHB) don't have guitar solos at all - remarkable, given that Zal Cleminson was one of the best and most flamboyant axemen around - but the guitar in both still stands out.

The Stones have two guitarists, but there are few real "solos" in their music (lots of fills though) and like Aerosmith, who have the same format, the vocals are the true lead.

I'd do more but I'm hungry (cue cheers from other members)

DZL

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I think the addition of another guitar player can be benificial if they are contributing to the sound of the band and adding that missing something. If they are working with the rest of the members and acting as the missing link then I feel that it is worthwhile that they are there :up:

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favourite band at the moment is Noxagt' date=' which is a bass, drums and a violin.

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Hate to shit in your mouth.....but the viola went along time ago....but the knarly as fuck guitar sounds virtually the same

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I want a band with 'rhythm drums' and 'lead drums'...

Pink Floyd - Pulse :up:

[edit] incidentally, look at The Who. No lead guitarist as such, but it sounds as good as any two guitar bands.

Having a really good bass player means there is no need for a rhythm guitarist as such (for a lot of genres), and the guitarist can just be whatever he wants to be.

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