Alkaline Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Call it an exception to the rule, but Ronaldinho, a Nike figurehead, just moved from Barcelona, a Nike sponsored team, to Milan, an Adidas sponsored team.That's the people who make the kit though, a fairly small logo on the shirt. Someone who is getting x amount of s from Sony is not contractually going to be able to run around and be photographed wearing a shirt with a massive logo from one of their major competitors on it. If Chelsea only have a further season with Samsung then i reckon you'll see Kaka in a Chelsea shirt next season.I'm sure you're right about a first option or something re the Shevchenko deal though.Chelsea are realistically the only club capable of affording Kaka. But how long is that going to last. Will Abramovich lose interest with the club if they win the Champions League, and is there some sort of contingency if he pulls out his money? They could quickly hit the skids like Gretna on a much larger scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Group EMAN UTDVillarrealCELTICAalborg Tough group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Group HReal MadridJuventusZenit St PetersburgBate Borisov Any group would be better than this one I think. I've no idea who Bate Borisov are but unless they have plans to nail large planks of wood across their goals they're not going to have a happy champs league experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Chelsea are realistically the only club capable of affording Kaka. But how long is that going to last. Will Abramovich lose interest with the club if they win the Champions League, and is there some sort of contingency if he pulls out his money? They could quickly hit the skids like Gretna on a much larger scale.I had just written a really long response trying to say why this wont happen, but then I realised I was just rambling and I had gone completely off track. What I will say though is that the situation with Chelsea and Gretna are completely incomparable. Kaka wont sign for Chelsea.SWP was never good enough for a champions league team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Didn't realise that the next round of the League Cup is seeded:Draw made 2pm on Monday.Seeded Teams:CelticRangersMotherwellAberdeenDundee UtdFalkirkInverness CTSt MirrenUnseeded Teams:KilmarnockHamiltonQueen of the SouthDunfermlinePartick LivingstonMortonAirdriePlenty of potential banana skins there, at a push i'd hope we get Airdrie at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 SWP was never good enough for a champions league team.Like so many others, he looked a great player until he went to a big team and couldn't get a game.Off topic, but I had a thought the other day. Remember when Mark Burchill came through the ranks at Celtic and got in the Scotland squad and everyone was calling him "Scotland's Michael Owen" and going on about how he's going to be the next great Scottish player?Hmm. Lets look at that.England's Michael Owen:Club App (Gls)* Liverpool 216 (118)Real Madrid 35 (13)Newcastle 44 (19)Total 295 (150) - International 89 caps, 40 goals.Scotland's Michael Owen:Celtic 50 (20)Birmingham City 13 (4)Ipswich Town 7 (1)Portsmouth 24 (8)Dundee 11 (2)Wigan Athletic 4 (0)Sheffield Wednesday 5 (0)Rotherham United 3 (1)Hearts 12 (3)Dunfermline Athletic 75 (29)Rotherham United 0 (0)Total 204 (68)- International 6 caps, 0 goals.Anyway, that's a long way of saying, Mark Burchill is a donkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Didn't realise that the next round of the League Cup is seeded:Draw made 2pm on Monday.Seeded Teams:CelticRangersMotherwellAberdeenDundee UtdFalkirkInverness CTSt MirrenUnseeded Teams:KilmarnockHamiltonQueen of the SouthDunfermlinePartick LivingstonMortonAirdriePlenty of potential banana skins there, at a push i'd hope we get Airdrie at homeI'd take any of them provided we get a home tie. Queen Of The South away would be the nightmare scenario! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Everton have signed Louis Saha. Should be a good signing for them I reckon if he stays fit, he'll bang the goals in if he's playing every week. Everton needed a decent striker to partner Yakubu after AJ left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewCat Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 going to see the dons play at st mirren tomorrow.Dandies to win 2-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Didn't realise that the next round of the League Cup is seeded:Draw made 2pm on Monday.Seeded Teams:CelticRangersMotherwellAberdeenDundee UtdFalkirkInverness CTSt MirrenUnseeded Teams:KilmarnockHamiltonQueen of the SouthDunfermlinePartick LivingstonMortonAirdriePlenty of potential banana skins there, at a push i'd hope we get Airdrie at homeSeedings clearly based on the current "scintillating" form of the "Top 8 Teams"What an utter length of pish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 I had just written a really long response trying to say why this wont happen, but then I realised I was just rambling and I had gone completely off track. What I will say though is that the situation with Chelsea and Gretna are completely incomparable. Kaka wont sign for Chelsea.SWP was never good enough for a champions league team.I wasn't meaning go completely out of business, but a league tumble coul d happen in a worst case scenario.I want the long version please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 I wasn't meaning go completely out of business, but a league tumble coul d happen in a worst case scenario.I want the long version please Chelsea aren't completely reliant on Abramovich, they still have assets in the form of players worth tens of millions of , they still squeeze 45000 folk into Stamford Bridge every week with tickets starting at 40 and corporate boxes going for thousands, they sell merchandise in pretty much every country in the civilised world, get millions in TV money from Sky, million dollar sponsorship deals etc. If Abramovic backed out they would have to downsize (starting with the astronomical wage bill), but they wouldn't go tits up. Gretna on the other hand had no players of note, had to play their home games 50 miles away in front of 100 or so fans, and they were never going to get big crowds even once Raydale was completed since the population of Gretna is about 2000, and the only money they had coming in was from Mileson. It was never a viable business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Chelsea aren't completely reliant on Abramovich, they still have assets in the form of players worth tens of millions of , they still squeeze 45000 folk into Stamford Bridge every week with tickets starting at 40 and corporate boxes going for thousands, they sell merchandise in pretty much every country in the civilised world, get millions in TV money from Sky, million dollar sponsorship deals etc. If Abramovic backed out they would have to downsize (starting with the astronomical wage bill), but they wouldn't go tits up. Gretna on the other hand had no players of note, had to play their home games 50 miles away in front of 100 or so fans, and they were never going to get big crowds even once Raydale was completed since the population of Gretna is about 2000, and the only money they had coming in was from Mileson. It was never a viable business.Yes, but if you sell those assests you no longer have them right? If you don't have players who can compete at a high level you can't rebuild the team quickly enough for it to not damage the club long term. Look at Leeds. They were once a very big club. They aren't now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Yes, but if you sell those assests you no longer have them right? If you don't have players who can compete at a high level you can't rebuild the team quickly enough for it to not damage the club long term. Look at Leeds. They were once a very big club. They aren't now.You could write a book about how badly Leeds were run though. They signed players on long term deals with huge wages, then when things started to go wrong they couldn't move them on, and they had to keep paying them. They also didn't pay their transfers fees, they only paid half up front and promised the rest after they won the Champions League. Then of course, they got knocked out in the semi-finals and couldn't afford to pay the rest of the transfer fees, found themselves with huge debts and had to jettison their entire first team and sell their stadium to keep things going. I can't see Chelsea getting to that level, they would haev to get rid of the Drogbas, Lampards, etc. but with the money they have coming in from merchandise, tickets, TV money etc they could easily build a team of lower priced players that would keep them in the Premiership, and rebuild from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartmaxwell Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Jay Stein has signed for Cowden, good fuckign riddance, Roddy Hunter has also been transfer listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorge Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Jay Stein has signed for Cowden, good fuckign riddance, Roddy Hunter has also been transfer listed.Any whispers on players coming in at LP?I predict 4-1 to Montrose tomorrow, Johhhhhhny Maitland second half hat-trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewarden Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Jay Stein has signed for Cowden, good fuckign riddance, Roddy Hunter has also been transfer listed.Good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartmaxwell Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 gerry maclauchlan from queen of the south has been signed apprently6ft 2 centre back. teckle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest treader. Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Mixed bag over the past few days:Dunfermline 0-0 AirdrieThen last night:Dunfermline 1-0 AlloaKirk does it again...Some bad news from last night:Nordsjaellend 2-1 The First Division Team Who Lasted Longer Than The Huns In EuropeTFDTWLLTTHIE were good value until they got knackered towards the end, cue the "glorious failure" cliches...Some , some not tomorrow eh jake?dunfermline - livvi.i get the feeling we will lose 2-0.goodbye 3rd place in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 You could write a book about how badly Leeds were run though. .After writing this I went to Amazon to see if there actually is a book about how badly Leeds were run. There is.Amazon.co.uk: Leeds United: Trials and Tribulations: Phil Rostron: BooksI bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Any whispers on players coming in at LP?I predict 4-1 to Montrose tomorrow, Johhhhhhny Maitland second half hat-trick.Don't Montrose always fuck it up in the second half??It's a shame there's only one man of the match award, as it'll be a hard choice between Guy Kerr and Andy McNulty :love:I've already accepted that ICT are getting beat at Falkirk tomorrow, so i'm doing my best to stay clear of that result... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 I've already accepted that ICT are getting beat at Falkirk tomorrow, so i'm doing my best to stay clear of that result...Is that some kind of reverse psychology...hoping for a big ICT victory??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingin' Ryan Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 1-0. job done.As an Ayr fan I was disapointed, however I think the game had the potential to be a bit of a slaying from Aberdeen but I think it was a fairly valiant effort from AU, so not completely gutted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Sounded like honours were even (but we won...nyaaaaaah!!!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Of Fudge Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Random Thought Of The Day:it's come to my attention (thanks to that bastion of quality, the EE) that 10 years ago this day Craig Hignett was sent off in a 1-1 draw, becoming the third aberdeen player to walk in three consecutive matches. (conspiracy!)for the brief period he was up here, hignett looked differnt class. though maybe not in that particular game, eh? what the hell happened to him? where did he end up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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