Captain America Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Sounds like that KKK outta there!No news sites confirmation yet but all the journos on twitter are reporting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJimF Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18073446 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gladstone Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Boo - I was hoping he'd stay and relegate the fuckers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Is it just me who thinks the combination of Carroll and Rooney could be lethal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Is it just me who thinks the combination of Carroll and Rooney could be lethal?Yeah i think in the last group game after they are already eliminated and the pressure is off they could work quite well together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Is it just me who thinks the combination of Carroll and Rooney could be lethal?Had that same discussion with a mate watching the Newcastle v Liverpool game earlier in the season. Assuming everyone is in form and fully fit, they're the obvious front two IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Only 4 strikers is risky when Rooney is out of the first 2 games. Are Welbeck, Carroll and Defoe good enough to get them through the group?This brings back memories of Sven taking 4 strikers to the World Cup in 06, with Rooney out injured for the first three matches, Walcott being uncapped and then Michael Owen tearing a quad just by walking onto the pitch or whatever he did. Then they had to rely on Peter Crouch and a unfit Wayne Rooney and Walcott never even got a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Rooney and Carroll is a good combination if England are going to go with 4-4-2. That might work in the groups, but if they come up against a very good team and want to see ANY of the ball at the feet of their own players, they can't really do that with a 2 man midfield, as just about every other top team on the continent will have a very clustered and assertive midfield.I imagine they'll continue with the 4-3-3 with Young and Walcott at either side of a striker. No idea what combo is going to happen in the midfield. I have a feeling we are going to back in time to 2002 and start talking about how Gerrard and Lampard can't play together. I think only one or the other should have gone, definitely not both, and if both play, then England haven't learned anything in exactly 10 years.No idea how Carrick isn't in there. Gerrard has been toss this season. Lampard has done ok, but a shadow of former form. Parker started off very well, but I'd take him anyway. Barry has had a good season too, but I've never seen him play well for England. Carrick has had his best season in about 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Really chuffed for John Ruddy getting the call up since he played his first full season at Cambridge as a 17 year old in our glorious relegations season from the football league in 2004/05. Nice to see one of our own doing well.Should have gone with 5 strikers though Walcott can play up front can he not if need be? Would have included Crouch over Defoe and also think Holt deserved a call up even though he's knocking on a bit and is uncapped. Downing??? Fucks sake I nearly pished myself at his inclusion!!!No surprises with ex King Kenny, I mean they have been woeful in the league considering what he's spent. Early favourites for the gig apparently are Robert Martinez and Rafa Benitez... He probably should have been given another season, there is more proof in the pudding that the Carling Cup really does mean bugger all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gladstone Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 They can fucking well leave Roberto alone. He's a boyhood Wigan fan (like me) and he's going fucking nowhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 They can fucking well leave Roberto alone. He's a boyhood Wigan fan (like me) and he's going fucking nowhere.I supported Wigan when they were still in Division 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Don't take Martinez. I like him. If he manages Liverpool I won't be able to like him. He'll be a cunt by proxy. I'm starting to hate him already just at the possibility of managing Liverpool the stupid fucking Spanish niceguy cunt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsum_Fantastic Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Don't take Martinez. I like him. If he manages Liverpool I won't be able to like him. He'll be a cunt by proxy. I'm starting to hate him already just at the possibility of managing Liverpool the stupid fucking Spanish niceguy cunt. I'm starting to hate you by proxy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Defoe is a guaranteed finisher if he gets a sniff. Don't think you can say the same about Crouch anymore.Adam Johnson, Micah Richards should have been included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 good documentary on itv4 about messi just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I'm starting to hate you by proxy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 problem with Crouch is he only tends to score against shit teams and there are few if any shit teams in the Euros... would still have taken him though. I could watch that goal against City this season all day... might Grant Holt have been worth a punt? no international experience and plucked out the lower leagues but by jove he banged them in this season for Norwich... I think it's all irrelevant anyway since England will do shit as always... having said that this is the first time I can ever remember little if any expectation on England in a major tournament so it might work in their favour. But you can bet your bottom dollar should they go and beat France the tabloids will just heap pressure on the squad and manager.I too hope Martinez doesn't go to that poison chalice of managing lolpool but he surely will be poached by a bigger club at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I said earlier, if we have to take a "big guy" it should surely be Holt. Scored more goals than the other "big guys" and has scored more than anyone else who is English except Rooney. The 3rd highest scorer who is English is Danny Graham. Another newly promoted and inexperienced striker. I wouldn't take him though. He didn't do so well in the second half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsum_Fantastic Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Fuck. I take it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Only 4 strikers is risky when Rooney is out of the first 2 games. Are Welbeck, Carroll and Defoe good enough to get them through the group?Ashley Young and Theo Walcott can both play 'up top' too, really, and although Hodgson has never really strayed far from 4-4-2 in his life, I think it's pretty likely that he'll play more of a 4-2-3-1-ish at international level. It's just the way it's done now.Would be surprised if the opening game didn't look much like this:HartJohnson - Cahill - Terry - ColeParker - BarryGerrard - Lampard - YoungCarroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I'd think it would be something like that, but perhaps with Gerrard in the middle and Walcott in for Lampard. I'm not confident with Carroll up top on his own. He's look toss when Liverpool have tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Yeah, you'd hope that with possibly Gerrard in the middle he'll get in and around Carroll to 'pick up scraps' as I think is the term. It'll be flowing stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 It'll be interesting to see how Gerrard plays for England now. He's pretty much "done a Scholes" for Liverpool, and he's playing so deep right now, but that might be more because Liverpool don't have anyone who can sit deep in the midfield since Lucas is injured and Spearing is awful. Could get a bit clustered if Barry and Parker are back there. Hopefully he'll stay close to the striker, 'in the hole' as they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeno Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 problem with Crouch is he only tends to score against shit teams and there are few if any shit teams in the Euros... .A stats geek has been over all of this. Partly true but heaps of players score the majority of their goals against small teams and he has had very limited opportunities. It's not perfect by any means but it's pretty fun to read anyway! http://ongoalsscored.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/the-peter-crouch-myth/TL;DR"Once the limited nature of his opportunities has been taken into account, Peter Crouch’s excellent goals per minute record sustains being weighted by quality to still be far and away the best of all the players studied. Peter Crouch is the most prolific England striker of the era and his perceived disproportionate reliance on scoring against football’s weak nations is a myth." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 What a fucking awful squad. Ridiculous picks.Carrol should be nowhere bloody near that plane. But still a hell of a lot closer than Downing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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