Shaki Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 That I never knew.Where's the defence and midfield boundary? It's all up in the air when you've got Owen Hargreaves wearing the number 4 and Gareth Barry wearing the number 6. Even Lee Sharpe wore number 5, and he was a winger in the 90's, when numbering was stricter. Now these fairyboys just make their own rules. Ronaldinho's #80 shirt for example. What a clown.It puts my extreme anal retention on full display when this kind of rubbish actually bothers me.Lee Sharpe probably has a lot to answer for. Having said that, my own beloved Scotland team dished out the squad numbers for Euro 92 on the basis of who held the most caps. I think Ally McCoist wore 5 and Stewart McKimmie wore 9 - a Disgrace! Goram wore 1 which may have been an exception, unless he did have the most caps. Argentina's 1986 squad dished out the numbers alphabetically meaning striker Sergio Almiron wore number 1! Exception was of course given to Maradona whose name didn't come in 10th alphabetically.....Traditionally (in my mind and not accounting for formational differences or redundant positions like "inside right").....1 = Goalie 2 = Right Back 3 = Left back 4 = defensively minded midfielder player 5 = Centre Back/sweeper 6 = Centre Back/sweeper 7 = right sided attacking player 8 = central midfielder9 = Centre forward 10 = Fantasista (striker/midfielder)11 = left sided attacking player12 = sub goalie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Lee Sharpe probably has a lot to answer for. Having said that, my own beloved Scotland team dished out the squad numbers for Euro 92 on the basis of who held the most caps. I think Ally McCoist wore 5 and Stewart McKimmie wore 9 - a Disgrace! Goram wore 1 which may have been an exception, unless he did have the most caps. Argentina's 1986 squad dished out the numbers alphabetically meaning striker Sergio Almiron wore number 1! Exception was of course given to Maradona whose name didn't come in 10th alphabetically.....Traditionally (in my mind and not accounting for formational differences or redundant positions like "inside right").....1 = Goalie 2 = Right Back 3 = Left back 4 = defensively minded midfielder player 5 = Centre Back/sweeper 6 = Centre Back/sweeper 7 = right sided attacking player 8 = central midfielder9 = Centre forward 10 = Fantasista (striker/midfielder)11 = left sided attacking player12 = sub goalie4 should be centre back and 6 a defensive midfielder IMO. The sub keeper should wear 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaki Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 4 should be centre back and 6 a defensive midfielder IMO. The sub keeper should wear 20.I could accept the variation on 4 and 6. You're only saying 20 for a sub goalie because you love Bert Bossu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I always thought 13 was the original sub keeper number.Whilst this is wetting my nerdy appetite, it doesn't explain why Willy Gallas is as much of a ruiner to don a number 10 shirt in the centre of defence. I don't care if he scores more goals than Francis Jeffers. I'm not having it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsinho Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Dennis Bergkamp left at the end of the 05-06 season leaving the number 10 jersey vacant. Gallas joined after the season had started by which point squad numbers 2-6 had already been allocated to Diaby, Cole, Fabregas, Toure and Senderos.Then they were too darn lazy to fix it the summer after.The likes of Ronaldo and Bendtner have no such excuses though and shouldn't be allowed to play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaki Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Dennis Bergkamp left at the end of the 05-06 season leaving the number 10 jersey vacant. Gallas joined after the season had started by which point squad numbers 2-6 had already been allocated to Diaby, Cole, Fabregas, Toure and Senderos.Then they were too darn lazy to fix it the summer after.Good squad number knowledge sir. He should have been allocated the next available number above 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaki Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 A good read for squad number geeks....Squad number (association football) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Diaby should never be number 2 anyway, and Fabregas should be number 8 (or I would even accept 10).I too am accepting of the 6 and 4 switcharound, but only if the number 6 is not a Makelele but more of a traditional centre-circle central midfielder.EDIT:That Wikipedia article is a good read. I knew number 5 in Brazillian football was the defensive player.To clarify, the following is acceptable to me:1 - Goalkeeper2 - Right Back3 - Left Back4 - Right Back, Centre Half, Defensive Midfielder5 - Centre Half6 - Centre Half, Left Back, Central Midfielder7 - Right Midfielder, Right Winger8 - Attacking Central Midfielder9 - Striker10 - Striker, Central Midfielder11 - Left Winger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaki Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Diaby should never be number 2 anyway, and Fabregas should be number 8 (or I would even accept 10).I too am accepting of the 6 and 4 switcharound, but only if the number 6 is not a Makelele but more of a traditional centre-circle central midfielder.EDIT:That Wikipedia article is a good read. I knew number 5 in Brazillian football was the defensive player.To clarify, the following is acceptable to me:1 - Goalkeeper2 - Right Back3 - Left Back4 - Right Back, Centre Half, Defensive Midfielder5 - Centre Half6 - Centre Half, Left Back, Central Midfielder7 - Right Midfielder, Right Winger8 - Attacking Central Midfielder9 - Striker10 - Striker, Central Midfielder11 - Left Winger4 and 6 as full backs?! ARE YOU CRAZY!?!Interestingly, on the sub goalie debate....In England & Spain, the substitute goalkeeper would often be assigned the number 13 shirt, whereas in Italy and Germany, the substitute goalkeeper would be given the number 12, or the number 16 in France. (citation needed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-IRL Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I always thought 13 was the original sub keeper number.Whilst this is wetting my nerdy appetite, it doesn't explain why Willy Gallas is as much of a ruiner to don a number 10 shirt in the centre of defence. I don't care if he scores more goals than Francis Jeffers. I'm not having it.Sub Keepers never really had a traditional number as they never really existed until recently!years ago you could only have 2 subs, numbered 12 and 14 due to superstition around 13. Then you were allowed 3 subs in the nineties to allow a keeper to be named, but generally the keeper would take either 12 or 15 as his number, however eventually many clubs just named 3 outfield players. By then of course, squad number were fairly established and subbies had whatever number they were allocated pre-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 4 and 6 as full backs?! ARE YOU CRAZY!?!More kind of wing backs to be fair. Roberto Carlos, Jackie McNamara in his youthful Celtic days to name two examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 4 and 6 as full backs?! ARE YOU CRAZY!?!More kind of wing backs to be fair. Roberto Carlos, Jackie McNamara in his youthful Celtic days to name two examples.Rangers used to have Artur Numan at left back wearing 5, and Craig Moore at centre back wearing 3. Fucking huns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Centre backs with the number 3 is a shambles. David Queer is a fine example of a twat like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 This is the best football conversation there ever was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrr Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Word on the street is that Rafa's walked.Probably bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Yeah, that rumour seems to be spreading pretty quickly. Seems to be that he's going to resign after the Stoke game tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Seriously, what is Shola up to?! 4 goals already. I think he's found his level. He's in footballing purgatory: not quite good enough for the prem but a sicko in the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrr Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Seriously, what is Shola up to?! 4 goals already. I think he's found his level. He's in footballing purgatory: not quite good enough for the prem but a sicko in the championship.It's clearly Chris Hughton's new, revolutionary "eating an apple while riding a bike" training technique:-Genius, I tells ya! Genius.I think we might need to ditch the "if Shola scores, we're on the pitch" chant if he's gonna keep this up! Shame, like. I love that one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsinho Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Shola! 2 more and he'll have caught chopra.Why is michael carrick taking pens for man utd when they have players that can shoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I wish I had the energy to stay up and watch Match of the Day.Thank the heavens for Sky+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I wish I had the energy to stay up and watch Match of the Day.Thank the heavens for Sky+5-1, top of the table. Thank you. Shazaaaaaaaaaam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrr Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Another win for the Toon and an attendance of 44k! That's absolutely ridiculous. We had more people in our stadium for a midweek game than most Premiership teams did this weekend. Love it.Sounds like Sheffield Wednesday put up a good fight. It sounded on the radio like our midfield went to shit in the second half and they started to pull it back a little, which goes to show the difference that having Guthrie or Barton in our team makes. They came up looking for a scalp and that's something we'll have to get used to in this division, but I'm pleased with the result and that's us back up to 3rd. A wee run-out at the end for young Nile Ranger too.Ameobi though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Is Shazaaaaaaaaaam! your 2009/10 catchphrase!? Seem to see it a lot these days.I'm going to adopt 'Drat' to voice my disappointment and 'Smashing' for voicing my appreciation this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Is Shazaaaaaaaaaam! your 2009/10 catchphrase!? Seem to see it a lot these days.I'm going to adopt 'Drat' to voice my disappointment and 'Smashing' for voicing my appreciation this yearI think it is, i don't think i've had one before... I need an appropriate negative phrase just in case i fall off cloud 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Mac Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I think it is, i don't think i've had one before... I need an appropriate negative phrase just in case i fall off cloud 9.Die in the face?EDIT: Can't wait to watch all the footy highlights tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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