Alphas Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Can ducks, swans and other pond dwelling animals get hypothermia?I was out at my folks at Kingswells recently and had to walk past a pond on the way there yet there were ducks in the pond even though it was fucking freezing. If they don't get hypothermia, they must have shrivelled nadgers at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I don't know, but what I do know is that ducks and swans are stupid enough to get stuck in a frozen loch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Can ducks, swans and other pond dwelling animals get hypothermia?I was out at my folks at Kingswells recently and had to walk past a pond on the way there yet there were ducks in the pond even though it was fucking freezing. If they don't get hypothermia, they must have shrivelled nadgers at the very least.All ducks are Geordies, it's a scientific fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 If they don't get hypothermia, they must have shrivelled nadgers at the very least.I'll field this one;Ducks penises and testicles shrivel up and fall off in the winter, only for a new set to be grown once spring returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltz Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I'll field this one;Ducks penises and testicles shrivel up and fall off in the winter, only for a new set to be grown once spring returns.Don't look at meeee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseyBoi Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 What im wondering is regarding instinct....How do animals know not to walk off cliffs?....How do they know they will die of they have zero instincts regarding death or being dead......I was watching a programme and sheep were being chased by dogs...These sheep would run like hell to the edge of a cliff then simply run the opposite direction....How do they know that jumping off the cliff doesnt bring them freedom instead of death.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I touched the lightbulb in my lamp once, and my finger swelled like a balloon. I didn't touch a lightbulb when it was on again. Your theory checks out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseyBoi Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 We are humans with human brains that are capable of learning from experience...so your saying that all sheep have fell a little bit in the past then learnt that the cliff means death?...What you being a human with human capabiltys got to do with sheep?....I once saw a vet stuff his whole arm up a cow right upto the shoulder ....The cow did not enjoy this...Yet every day for the entire cows pregnancy said guy had his arm up this cows arse...Why if the cow didnt find it natural did it not learn and kick this vet in the head...You mix human emotions with animal abilitys lol....Sheep lick a light bulb for any reason you can bet they will not learn not to do it again.....My wondering about stuff still stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 You mix human emotions with animal abilitys lol....Sheep lick a light bulb for any reason you can bet they will not learn not to do it again.....My wondering about stuff still stands You seem to think that humans are not animals. Go have a quick word with Mr Pavlov... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Small scale experiences. example. When you were younger you probably touched something quite hot, from then on you were more careful you didn't pick up something else that could be hot. You didn't need to be burned alive before you knew not to walk into an incinerator.For that theory to work in the sheep example they would have had to have fallen/jumped from something not high enough to kill them but high enough to hurt/give them a fright. Sheep don't climb trees as a lamb so I don't believe this to be viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Sheep don't climb trees as a lamb so I don't believe this to be viable.How do you know? Are you some sort of boffin' zoologist or somethin'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 How do you know? Are you some sort of boffin' zoologist or somethin'?Not really. My natural inclination is to say that a sheep's hooves are completely inadequate for tree climbing. Unless it's Spidersheep.I don't think it takes a boffin to work this one out and that you are arguing for the sake of it. 8-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 It's survival instinct innit, it's something you're born with not something you learn. Same for animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 It's survival instinct innit, it's something you're born with not something you learn. Same for animals.Your 2 star rep thing now looks like Zippy from Rainbow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I still think it looks like a robot. The illuminated green square could go left and right across the mouth, as robots needs constantnly flashing lights, or they aren't robots are they? They are just men made of tin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 For that theory to work in the sheep example they would have had to have fallen/jumped from something not high enough to kill them but high enough to hurt/give them a fright. Sheep don't climb trees as a lamb so I don't believe this to be viable.Oh for fucks sake everyone! It works because if it didn't then there would be no sheep, or humans or anything else left alive and this planet would just consist of a bunch of bloodstained cliffs.Everything too stupid to realise that falling a long way equals death, or which has no instinct telling it not to walk off a cliff, has already succumbed to the trials of evolution.Also from personal experience (other) animals are much smarter than we realise and us humans are much dumber. For example if you released a naked human into a jungle then how long do you think it would last? I'd wager that in the league table of animals for this event humans would place near the bottom despite our brain power.Two nights ago I saw a fox running through the fish market. I reckon a fox can survive in Union Square a lot longer than a chav would last in Farthing Wood. I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Yeah but chavs are inherently stupid, as displayed by the fact they don't seem to realise that wandering about with your trackie bottoms tucked into your socks makes you look like a complete fud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Yeah but chavs are inherently stupid, as displayed by the fact they don't seem to realise that wandering about with your trackie bottoms tucked into your socks makes you look like a complete fud.It is however, handy for riding bicycles that they have stolen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Oh for fucks sake everyone! It works because if it didn't then there would be no sheep, or humans or anything else left alive and this planet would just consist of a bunch of bloodstained cliffs.Everything too stupid to realise that falling a long way equals death, or which has no instinct telling it not to walk off a cliff, has already succumbed to the trials of evolution.Also from personal experience (other) animals are much smarter than we realise and us humans are much dumber. For example if you released a naked human into a jungle then how long do you think it would last? I'd wager that in the league table of animals for this event humans would place near the bottom despite our brain power.Two nights ago I saw a fox running through the fish market. I reckon a fox can survive in Union Square a lot longer than a chav would last in Farthing Wood. I rest my case.Ridiculous. Intelligence or lack of has nothing to do with how a species has evolved and adapted to their own particular lifestyle and habitat. A naked human would probably freeze to death out in the wild, unlike, yknow... an animal covered in fur? I doubt my teeth and rather puny jaws could rip through the torso of a farm animal either, if I was to prey on animals to survive. Is it because I'm stupid, or because I'm just not cut out for that sort of thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Ridiculous. Intelligence or lack of has nothing to do with how a species has evolved and adapted to their own particular lifestyle and habitat. A naked human would probably freeze to death out in the wild, unlike, yknow... an animal covered in fur? I doubt my teeth and rather puny jaws could rip through the torso of a farm animal either, if I was to prey on animals to survive. Is it because I'm stupid, or because I'm just not cut out for that sort of thing?You do possess the tools (intellectually) to remedy those situations though, like using sharp stones to cut up meat and skin and make rudimentary clothing from hides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 What im wondering is regarding instinct....How do animals know not to walk off cliffs?....How do they know they will die of they have zero instincts regarding death or being dead......I was watching a programme and sheep were being chased by dogs...These sheep would run like hell to the edge of a cliff then simply run the opposite direction....How do they know that jumping off the cliff doesnt bring them freedom instead of death....I've skimmed this thread so apolgies to any toes i'm stepping on...A sheep understands the boundary of that cliff in the same way the parasite that thrives in a heron's stomach knows it has more chance of getting there by latching onto the fish...i.e. it doesn't. There is no cognitive thought involved. It doesn't consciously make the decision to not jump, millions of years of evolution tells it what to do. At some point on the evolutionary timeline, sheep who jumped off the cliff were outnumbered by sheep who turned away and that trend continued in that direction untill today... where there are no kamikaze sheep.Even us Humans, for whom cognitive thought has come about as a result of evolution, are still subject to these trends, it's just that they take millions of years to take effect... I swear that double pronged scaley nob i've got is gonna catch on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 You know when you buy one of those big 2 litre things of milk from the supermarket?What the fuck are those things called? Is it a bottle? A carton? A jug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 For example if you released a naked human into a jungle then how long do you think it would last?Ridiculous. Intelligence or lack of has nothing to do with how a species has evolved and adapted to their own particular lifestyle and habitat. A naked human would probably freeze to death out in the wild, unlike, yknow... an animal covered in fur? I doubt my teeth and rather puny jaws could rip through the torso of a farm animal either, if I was to prey on animals to survive. Is it because I'm stupid, or because I'm just not cut out for that sort of thing?There's no snow in the jungle buddy. Freezing to death wouldn't be a huge issue for you. Likewise chasing down your prey and ripping into with your teeth probably wouldn't be your best bet for nutrition. I rest my case LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berti Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 a container...ha....besides, there is only ever one type of jug that contains milk in my humble opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 You know when you buy one of those big 2 litre things of milk from the supermarket?What the fuck are those things called? Is it a bottle? A carton? A jug?There's an uncanny resemblance between those milk bottle/carton/jugs and those things that disabled people pee into. One might suspect that they share a common ancestor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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