Larsen B Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Smashing Pumpkins - a couple of OK songs but I just don't get it.Foo Fighters - First couple of albums were good but Dave Grohl has turned into someone I never thought he would when he was in Nirvana.The Killers - Half the first album was good, the rest was pish and that has continued.Tool - I don't get it.Babyshambles - if it wasn't Pete Doherty's band this amateurish sounding cack would never be released.Franz Ferdinand - 1 or 2 good songs then just shite.Manic Street Preachers - basically sold out on all their own principles after 3 albums, everything since 'Everything Must Go' has been largely pointless, even that was going downhill but it does have more good tunes than bad.Just out of interest, what principles do you think they sold out on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Droid Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Manic Street Preachers - basically sold out on all their own principles after 3 albums, everything since 'Everything Must Go' has been largely pointless, even that was going downhill but it does have more good tunes than bad.Balls. Admittedly there is a quality differential between the Richey stuff and the post-Richey stuff, but they kinda needed to re-invent, their most recent album is an absolute cracker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Foo Fighters - First couple of albums were good but Dave Grohl has turned into someone I never thought he would when he was in Nirvana.Did you think he was like Peter Pan? The boy who wouldn't grow up?!Foo Fighters are completely different to Nirvana. Grohl had his young days, now he's getting on a bit and I guess he wanted to make different music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Just out of interest, what principles do you think they sold out on?Well their biggest one would be the fact they said they would split after their first album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Did you think he was like Peter Pan? The boy who wouldn't grow up?!Foo Fighters are completely different to Nirvana. Grohl had his young days, now he's getting on a bit and I guess he wanted to make different music.I'm not talking about the change in musical style from Nirvana, Foo Fighters still make the occasional OK song, and the thought of them trying to duplicate Nirvana is horrific. It's more the insincere twaddle he spouts at gigs nowadays, it's the same patter no matter the location I always thought he would be a bit more spontaneous and genuine than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 The Beatles.Seconded. I respect their contribution in music and they do have a lot of classic songs I like, but I'd rather listen to Iron Maiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Seconded. I respect their contribution in music and they do have a lot of classic songs I like, but I'd rather listen to Iron Maiden That's exactly how i feel about them, aside from Maiden. I understand why so many people like them and what they contributed musically to their era and how they helped influence many other bands. I just think that they shouldn't be as revered as they are. They're ok. That's it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Well their biggest one would be the fact they said they would split after their first album.Well if principles are so important to you then you should never have listened to Gold Against the Soul or The Holy Bible either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingin' Ryan Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 but they kinda needed to re-invent, their most recent album is an absolute cracker.Bingo, they would have got even more stick if they'd just kept making carbon copies of the early stuff. The first three albums will always remain my favourites but they've released some fantastic stuff since then. Even Lifeblood which I consider my least favourite contains a couple of songs that I'd put up there with the best of their stuff.Also the argument that they 'sold out' on their principles because they didn't split up after their first album is ridiculous, they also said it was going to sell more than Appetite For Destruction, I think there was always a fair amount of tongue in cheek in those statements.I think Simon Price was bang on the money when he said 'they're still the same band, it's a soul thing'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 So the lesson is, if you are going to pick your bands you think are overrated, don't mention the Manics because some people are too precious about a band that became so mediocre after 4 albums and have to find excuses for them.I was there when they started out, it didn't appear very tongue in cheek, they were full of shit and pretty much a joke to a lot of people. They then became slightly less ridiculous before turning into a dad rock band, which seemed to go against their whole ethos.But of course this is my opinion if people want to worship them so be it.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I think Simon Price was bang on the money when he said 'they're still the same band, it's a soul thing'.Meaning what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britheguy Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 - Pink Floyd (just cant get it at all?) iv tried so hard!)hurray!!just telling this to a friend yesterday. Well done!However, it's hard to define over rated. If a band has talent, and makes a whole generation of people pick up a guitar or bass etc, and then they go on to make good music etc, does that make them over rated? I don't think so. Stone, Beatles, Oasis, all fall into the that group.Muse for me is over ratedU2 - the sameColdplay - more of the same.Put my neck on the line....Dire Straits!!! ( apart from the first album) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Bon JoviGuns n RosesQueen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 The Rolling Stones- Dull.Trivium- They can play their instruments but my god they can't write a decent riff...just recycled 80's thrash riffs. Razorlight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeanette Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 The View are doing my head in.For starters, I just don't have a clue what he says when he sings. They're just rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 the view had a bit of promise but their debut album was obviously rushed and subsequently awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Droid Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 So the lesson is, if you are going to pick your bands you think are overrated, don't mention the Manics because some people are too precious about a band that became so mediocre after 4 albums and have to find excuses for them.It's a discussion board sir, we're discussing. Fair enough you don't like 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britheguy Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Seconded. I respect their contribution in music and they do have a lot of classic songs I like, but I'd rather listen to Iron Maiden Have you not just contradicted yourself there? I respect their contribution in music and they do have a lot of classic songs I like. Music likes and dislikes are very subjective at the best of times, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnsdude Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 foals, futureheads, ting tings, kings of leon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Have you not just contradicted yourself there? I respect their contribution in music and they do have a lot of classic songs I like. Music likes and dislikes are very subjective at the best of times,Not really. They have good songs and influenced a lot of people, but I'm not one of the people who think they were important and they certainly haven't influence me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanimal Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 i think, with respect to the foos and suchlike, that rock has gone full circle and needs to regestate.how many times can you go to see your favourite band, and feel like herded cattle?watchin the old vids of the 90s, when alternative music first made money, was cool.nirvana at reading, metallica in moscow etc.but to be honest i dont wana drink crap beer from a plastic cup surrounded by other yumps whove had too many plastic beers yelping and clapping out of time to music that isnt in standard 4/4.like a sheep.with the foos-and 99% of big bands it is a SHOW, a JOB, and its boring.but we like the flashy lights, makes us think were part of something important.check your LOCAL scene.it may be shit but its YOUR personal experience that matters right?.. . . . i am currently drinkin someone elses white wine ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyRATM Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 three of my favourite musicians of all time; Adam Jones, Mayanrd James Keenan and Danny Carrey.Nae a Justin Chancellor fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyRATM Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 That's exactly how i feel about them, aside from Maiden. I understand why so many people like them and what they contributed musically to their era and how they helped influence many other bands. I just think that they shouldn't be as revered as they are. They're ok. That's it though.Me too. I dont understand when people say "oh if there was no beatles there would be no music nowadays"Bollocks. Another band woulda came along and did the same thing IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Me too. I dont understand when people say "oh if there was no beatles there would be no music nowadays"Bollocks. Another band woulda came along and did the same thing IMO.because no one else did do it. the beatles did, hence why it is said.Make no mistake about it, like them or not but the beatles were hugely important in shaping the way music has went, be it for the better or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 So the lesson is, if you are going to pick your bands you think are overrated, don't mention the Manics because some people are too precious about a band that became so mediocre after 4 albums and have to find excuses for them.I was there when they started out, it didn't appear very tongue in cheek, they were full of shit and pretty much a joke to a lot of people. They then became slightly less ridiculous before turning into a dad rock band, which seemed to go against their whole ethos.But of course this is my opinion if people want to worship them so be it....haha what a prime example of someone getting far to upset over nothing.The manics didnt sell out, and as was said if you were so into their message you wouldnt have gone near any of the other albums. its easy to sit on the fence and be critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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