Guest five years Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 does anyone care anymore?in today's society, is he worthy of an dedicated day?does shakespeare have 'a day'? no. what makes burns so special? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 because he's one of the best poets the world has ever seen.it is important to celebrate our culture and heritage.Plus, Burns suppers are good entertainment.Any excuse for a ceilidh is a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I care.Haggis, neeps and tatties. Yum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 The only thing I know about Burns is the proverb "if at first ye don't succeed..fuck it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachie Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 He's the most well known figure in Scottish Literature, of course we should have a day to celebrate him!I still care, and I doubt I'm the only one who does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeola Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 i dont care...he was a sweaty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseyBoi Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 i care bloody right he was the 1st scottish guy to break america elvis being the secondHaggis Neeps and Tatties how can anyone not care about that its a whoppin meal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingin' Ryan Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 in today's society' date=' is he worthy of an dedicated day?[/quote']His mastery of language has clearly had a lasting effect on modern day grammar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Mac Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 does anyone care anymore?in today's society' date=' is he worthy of an dedicated day?does shakespeare have 'a day'? no. what makes burns so special?[/quote']Just because you and timpy are guffy twats there is no need to go slagging off Rabbie.Off back to England with you.Heathans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 His mastery of language has clearly had a lasting effect on modern day grammar.Are you implying that the use of Scots dialect, as was widespread in Burns' time, is something to be frowned upon?There' s a big difference between Burns' use of dialect and colloquialisms and modern day grammar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plato the Greek Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I don't want to get on my high horse but I always feel bemused by this, people seem to ask every year. Of course there should be day to celebrate Burns. What a ridiculous thing to find fault with in Scottish society at a time when there is so much else desperately wrong in this country. To find out why: Read his poetry. Beautiful yet everyday, exciting, funny, bitingly satirical, poignant, fiercely honest and self-deprecating, awesome in its scope and power for someone from the 18th century who was born and remained for most of his life a tenant farmer and who died in his mid-thirties. It is also completely missing the point to make a comparison with Shakespeare. The fact that there is not really a recognised 'Shakespeare Day' is more due to the fact that Shakespeare, rightly or wrongly, is the pre-eminent artist/poet/writer of imaginary literature in the western world - his influence runs so far into so many aspects of culture worldwide that a single day in his memory would essentially be superfluous. At the same time, English literature has also always been privileged over Scottish literature. Specifically Scottish literature - written in dialect- has far fewer luminaries. Without getting mixed up in meaningless nationalistic jingoism, this is another reason why Burns Night is so important. But as everyone else has said it is a good excuse to get drunk and have a party, which is the tribute Burns would have wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I used to be dismissive of Burns, due to only knowing the crowd-pleasers like 'Tam O'Shanter', 'To a Mouse' etc, but having made a bit more of an effort in the last few decades I now like a lot of his work, and do 'Now Westlin' Winds' live. I've a naff cover of 'Ae Fond Kiss' on the new CD-R, but just to keep my old father happy!So..Burns:up:....Haggis Neeps & Tatties:up: Accompanying nips:up: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachie Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 You should do a cover of Afton Water. I'd like to hear that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I think it's good and very important that we celebrate an important figuire like Burns to remind us about his life.We never got to go over Burns' poems at school which is a damning shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Droid Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I don't want to get on my high horse but I always feel bemused by this' date=' people seem to ask every year. Of course there should be day to celebrate Burns. What a ridiculous thing to find fault with in Scottish society at a time when there is so much else desperately wrong in this country. To find out why: Read his poetry. Beautiful yet everyday, exciting, funny, bitingly satirical, poignant, fiercely honest and self-deprecating, awesome in its scope and power for someone from the 18th century who was born and remained for most of his life a tenant farmer and who died in his mid-thirties. It is also completely missing the point to make a comparison with Shakespeare. The fact that there is not really a recognised 'Shakespeare Day' is more due to the fact that Shakespeare, rightly or wrongly, is the pre-eminent artist/poet/writer of imaginary literature in the western world - his influence runs so far into so many aspects of culture worldwide that a single day in his memory would essentially be superfluous. At the same time, English literature has also always been privileged over Scottish literature. Specifically Scottish literature - written in dialect- has far fewer luminaries. Without getting mixed up in meaningless nationalistic jingoism, this is another reason why Burns Night is so important. But as everyone else has said it is a good excuse to get drunk and have a party, which is the tribute Burns would have wanted.[/quote']/\ what he said, it's important that we cling onto any culture we have left. Plus Burns was a notorious drinker and whorer, so I salute him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 bbc national radio 1 cares this is from 1am to 3am today & you care hear all the tracks online for a week:-::: 23/01/2006::: Burns Night SpecialBallboy - 'A Man's A Man For A' That' (White) International Airport - 'Comin Thro' The Page' (White) Marcia Blaine School For Girls - 'The Devil's Awa' Wi The Exciseman' (White) Camera Obscura - 'I Love My Jean' - (Elephant) Snowblood - 'Tragic Fragment' (White) Cymbol - 'To A Mouse' (White) Camera Obscura - 'Cock Up Your Beaver' (Recorded at Peel Acres for the John Peel Show) RAAR - 'Pegasus At Wanlockhead' (White) Wilson Tan - 'Ae Fond Kiss' (White) Sluts of Trust - 'Why Should We Idly Waste Our Prime' (White) Nimrod 33 'I've Sung My Heart Out In The Highlands Because My Heart Is In The Highlands' (White) Aphrodisiacs - 'Red Red Rose' - (White) Camera Obscura - 'Where Heather Lies' - (Recorded at Peel Acres for the John Peel Show) Roxanne Stephens - 'Address To The Deil' (White) Chris from the Mutts - 'Winter: A Dirge' Wounded Knees - 'One Night As I Did Wander Into Out Over The Forth' (White) Angus Adaadat - 'Address To The Haggis' (White) Camera Obscura - 'Ae Fond Kiss' - (Recorded at Peel Acres for the John Peel Show) Lucky Luke ' O Whistle And I'll Come To You My Lad' (White) Glasgow Choir (circa 1940s) - 'Blythe Hae I Ben On The Hill' - (BBC Recording) Mother & The Addicts - 'Bannockburn Battle of Interpretation Collective Missile Part 4' (White) Belle & Sebastian - 'Ye Banks & Braes Address To The Toothach' (White) Shinmeat - 'Tamo'shanter' (White) Delgados - 'Parcel of Rogues' (White) Glasgow Choir (circa 1940s) - 'My Heart Is Sair I Duarna Tell' - (BBC Recording) Camera Obscura - 'Red Red Rose' (Elephant) Lord Reith - 'The We Herd' - (BBC Recording) The Robert Burns - 'Afton Water' - (Lismor Recordings) Eddie Reader - 'John Anderson My Jo' (Rough Trade) Ross Kennedy - 'Extempore & Saint Stephen's House' - (Linn Records) Izu - 'Auld Lang Syne' (White) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingin' Ryan Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Are you implying that the use of Scots dialect' date=' as was widespread in Burns' time, is something to be frowned upon?There' s a big difference between Burns' use of dialect and colloquialisms and modern day grammar.[/quote']Nope, totally wrong. It was more of a sarcastic joke due to the fact the guy who started the thread questioning Burn's had said "is he worth an dedicated day".On topic, I think he's completely worthy of a dedicated day. This is probably due to the fact I've had the idea of Robbie Burns drilled into me from birth, (my Grandparents live 5 minutes away from his house in Ayr and my Grandfather used to do work for the Burns Heritage group). At the end of the day, Scottish cultures beginning to be steamrolled over by the idea of "Britishness", which at the end of the day, basically means "Englishness". Anything that positively represents Scotland's independent culture is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phantomsmasher Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 bbc national radio 1 cares this is from 1am to 3am today & you care hear all the tracks online for a week:-::: 23/01/2006::: Burns Night SpecialBallboy - 'A Man's A Man For A' That' (White) International Airport - 'Comin Thro' The Page' (White) Marcia Blaine School For Girls - 'The Devil's Awa' Wi The Exciseman' (White) Camera Obscura - 'I Love My Jean' - (Elephant) Snowblood - 'Tragic Fragment' (White) Cymbol - 'To A Mouse' (White) Camera Obscura - 'Cock Up Your Beaver' (Recorded at Peel Acres for the John Peel Show) RAAR - 'Pegasus At Wanlockhead' (White) Wilson Tan - 'Ae Fond Kiss' (White) Sluts of Trust - 'Why Should We Idly Waste Our Prime' (White) Nimrod 33 'I've Sung My Heart Out In The Highlands Because My Heart Is In The Highlands' (White) Aphrodisiacs - 'Red Red Rose' - (White) Camera Obscura - 'Where Heather Lies' - (Recorded at Peel Acres for the John Peel Show) Roxanne Stephens - 'Address To The Deil' (White) Chris from the Mutts - 'Winter: A Dirge' Wounded Knees - 'One Night As I Did Wander Into Out Over The Forth' (White) Angus Adaadat - 'Address To The Haggis' (White) Camera Obscura - 'Ae Fond Kiss' - (Recorded at Peel Acres for the John Peel Show) Lucky Luke ' O Whistle And I'll Come To You My Lad' (White) Glasgow Choir (circa 1940s) - 'Blythe Hae I Ben On The Hill' - (BBC Recording) Mother & The Addicts - 'Bannockburn Battle of Interpretation Collective Missile Part 4' (White) Belle & Sebastian - 'Ye Banks & Braes Address To The Toothach' (White) Shinmeat - 'Tamo'shanter' (White) Delgados - 'Parcel of Rogues' (White) Glasgow Choir (circa 1940s) - 'My Heart Is Sair I Duarna Tell' - (BBC Recording) Camera Obscura - 'Red Red Rose' (Elephant) Lord Reith - 'The We Herd' - (BBC Recording) The Robert Burns - 'Afton Water' - (Lismor Recordings) Eddie Reader - 'John Anderson My Jo' (Rough Trade) Ross Kennedy - 'Extempore & Saint Stephen's House' - (Linn Records) Izu - 'Auld Lang Syne' (White)The Snowblood and Camera Obscura renditions sound quite interesting... That said, I've never been effected by burns day, nor really ever seen the relevance of celebrating it. I will admit that he was an influential part of Scottish writing, but in all honesty I don't enjoy his writings one ounce, nor do I feel any form of national pride towards this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippinoneastereggs Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I always got to the semi finals of burns poetry reading competitions at Primary School but never ever won.Still know two verses of To a Moose, but my speciality was Willie Wassle. Cant remember that one any more.bbc national radio 1 cares this is from 1am to 3am today & you care hear all the tracks online for a week:-::: 23/01/2006::: Burns Night Specialalthough Burns Night is wednesday. Why today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 'A man's a man for a that' was about the only thing i could write a decent essay on in higher English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 although Burns Night is wednesday. Why today?it was the whole of the one world programme & i think its only on once a week???looking forward to listening to friends of ours the marcia blaine school for girls :] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Burns has a statue in New York - Central Park, alongside other poets. It would be a disgrace not to celebrate him n his own country. I hate haggis but I'll have a dram on Wednesday night to celebrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippinoneastereggs Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 i also hate haggis, but have a lot of respect for the Bard, as my flatmate just assured me was the original Aiden Moffat.Plus the 25th is also my grandad's birthday and my cats birthday also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I think it's obviously still relavant. it even infiltrates high street shopping culture - anne summers current 10% off deal upon reciting burns poetry, to coincide with their carpet burns day slogan. I love haggis neaps n tatties and celebrating a man who was at the forefront of scots culture in his time can only be a good thing when trying to interest younger generations in past, present and future scots music and art. the guy is also more rock n roll than many a floppy haired chart bothering group these days as well.snowblood cover should be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinzHines Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Just because you and timpy are guffy twats there is no need to go slagging off Rabbie.Off back to England with you.Heathans.I find this post highly offensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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