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Complete toot, that. Find me one Newcastle fan who thought we had a chance of getting Mourinho and I'll eat my cat (I like my hat too much). The initial outrage at Pardew's appointment was 100% justified, as he was coming off a terrible stint with Southampton and Hughton had done an excellent job. In hindsight, it was a good decision, but that doesn't mean we weren't justified in our rage at the time.

Don't bother looking for that fan folks, he doesn't have a cat.

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I'm not a big hater of the "Stoke style of play" but the way they defend corners is a fucking joke. Shawcross, Huth etc just wrestle their man to the ground every time and the refs just do nothing about it. Shawcross in particular is fucking atrocious at football, he's just there to batter people.

EDIT: Fuck sake, Hansen's just gone off on one about this. I posted first. Fuck you Hansen.

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Arteta's face makes it. Brilliant. Fuck Nasri. He should have stayed at Arsenal, or at least moved to a team where he's not behind Silva in the pecking order. What a totally pointless transfer.

I'm not a fan of Nasri either, but surely he will win more trophies with City than Arsenal in the long run. Even over the next couple of seasons. City have finished above them this year, they will probably win more trophies than the Arsenal in the 'next few years, and of course he will be on better money. From his perspective, it was probably a good move.

Agreed it's pointless buying from City though.

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I'm not a fan of Nasri either, but surely he will win more trophies with City than Arsenal in the long run. Even over the next couple of seasons. City have finished above them this year, they will probably win more trophies than the Arsenal in the 'next few years, and of course he will be on better money. From his perspective, it was probably a good move.

Agreed it's pointless buying from City though.

Nasri and The Most Likeable Man on the PlanetTM (Piers Morgan) have a £10k bet over who will win a trophy first - City or Arse. I think Nasri will be okay.

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I had a look back at the comments on this board around the time of Hughton being sacked and Pardew being appointed because I seem to remember the chat being along the lines of Pardew not being good enough etc. but it turns out that's not really what the Newcastle fans were saying, but more what everyone else was saying. Everyone thought it was a crazy appointment. Here's an insight from Murrr the Newcastle fan. (spoiler tags for size of quotes)

I've had a few hours to appraise the Chris Hughton decision and it honestly appals me. I have never been so infuriated by a managerial change. Sir Bobby Robson has long been the idol I've looked up to the most but I didn't even feel this angry when he was pushed out the door. This is a terrible, terrible decision that defies all logic. I simply cannot wrap my head around why they would do something like this.

No footballing man has changed my opinion quite like Chris Hughton. If you find my posts from last year (around about when he was appointment) you'll find dissatisfaction and criticism. I felt like he wasn't the man to take us out of the Championship, and I found some of his tactical decisions baffling. He learned game-by-game though, and things started to click spectacularly when he was given the chance in January to bring in some of his own players and get the team playing the way he saw fit. I've never seen such a dramatic improvement from a manager of my team. He was a very progressive manager: a man who saw that certain things weren't working and came up with solutions to change them. He learned from every mistake he made and I had a lot of faith in him to keep us up. Honestly, I don't know what else we could've expected from Chris. He did an absolutely fantastic job to take us back into the Premiership in style, he was the most adaptable manager we've had in my lifetime, and we've had an excellent start to the decision. We're 11th with a 5-1 derby win over Sunderland, a 6-0 over Villa, and a 1-0 over Arsenal. That's fantastic for any recently promoted side.

Mr. Hughton was quickly becoming a personal hero of mine. It wasn't just his continually improving managerial skills, but his character and all-round demeanour. I genuinely cannot name a classier manager. Graceful in victory and defeat, never speaking out of turn, always taking the pressure away from the team, never openly criticising players in the media, keep his cards close to his chest at all times, very polite, calm, and well-spoken. Just an all-round decent bloke in a profession full of bastards. That's what makes this decision even more infuriating.

I don't know how we're going to avoid relegation if we employ a joker like Alan Pardew. If that's who Ashley thinks is the man to take us forward then it only heightens my suspicion that the fat twat has very little interest in seeing the team do well. It's almost like he wants us to fail. Undermining Keegan, burning bridges with Shearer, employing Kinnear, saying "we're for sale" and then refusing to negotiate with anyone, and now this. Man, if I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd say he was trying to destroy us.

This is sickening. Absolutely sickening. Ashley and his goons are ruining this football club. I know plenty of Newcastle fans and not one of them would've wanted Hughton fired. It's clear to anyone with a functioning brain that he'd done a brilliant job and was taking the team forward with class and dignity. He was an excellent manager for Newcastle United, a great ambassador, and a credit to the club. I hope that Mr. Hughton goes on to enjoy a very successful managerial career elsewhere: his approach is a true breath of fresh air and he deserves the chance to work without the interference of an idiot like Mike Ashley.

Lazy football troll is lazy.

Alan Pardew. Jesus, it's come to this. He has my full support (as any new Newcastle manager does), but this is just such a stupid move. I honestly cannot understand what was going through Ashley's head when he decided to bin Hughton (who was doing an excellent job) and replace him with a Championship-calibre manager. Fucking hell.

Perhaps ca_gere is onto something with the "Mike Ashley is a genius" possibility...

To begin with a die-hard Newcastle fan like Murrr thought that Hughton was not the right man for the job of taking Newcastle back to the Premier League, but he turned out to be wrong. Hughton was absolutely the man to take the team back to the Premier League and he did it in some style. He would probably have kept Newcastle up last season, but would he have taken them any further? Nobody knows really.

But then the same fan just can't comprehend why Pardew was given the job when Hughton was going so well. Well, so far that appointment has turned into an absolute master stroke too.

Pardew will get Newcastle into the Champions League and then Ashley will sack him and give the job to someone who does not look like the man for the job and then that manager will lead Newcastle to winning the league and Champions League. Then he will get sacked and replaced with someone who doesn't look like the man to take Newcastle onto footballing world domination... etc. etc.

Then after all that, he'll fuck it all up and Newcastle will go bust.

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To be fair, there wasnt a person out there, except Ashley and a couple of Southhampton fans who felt he had been hard done by, that thought Pardew was the man for the job, and one season doesnt say enough to say yes or no. If Newcastle keep up this form next season, then we can start saying Ashely made a brilliant choice, right now Newcastle could just be riding off the back of good moral and the fact most teams except United and Arsenal have been in poor form recently .

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Here's a question for all the Poland based Ab-mus dudes...

Any idea of how a bunch of us from Aberdeen going on a stag weekend in Krakow this weekend will be able to watch the Aberdeen v Hibs match which is being shown on BBC 1 in this country!?

Quite a few die-hard Dons fans (season ticket holders) going to be there and really don't want to miss the game! There seem to be plenty of places that show Scottish football but I think that would be Sky / ESPN matches. Does anyone know how it works in other countries if the BBC has the rights to show the match, is there any chance/hope it will be shown on different channels on the continent!?

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Hmmm id doubt they would have it unless the place has sky, sky should have the bbc where ever you are in the world.

Is that how it works in other countries? If you have Sky, you have BBC? I.e. not just BBC News, but BBC 1, BBC 2 and including the regional variations? Like if you have Sky in this country you can flick down to the 700s or wherever it is and watch BBC1 London, and vice versa, the Londoners can choose to watch BBC1 Scotland so that they can see River City if they really want to...?

I.e. will a pub in Poland with Sky TV have BBC 1 Scotland?

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Is that how it works in other countries? If you have Sky, you have BBC? I.e. not just BBC News, but BBC 1, BBC 2 and including the regional variations? Like if you have Sky in this country you can flick down to the 700s or wherever it is and watch BBC1 London, and vice versa, the Londoners can choose to watch BBC1 Scotland so that they can see River City if they really want to...?

I.e. will a pub in Poland with Sky TV have BBC 1 Scotland?

If its on the sky network it should be a case of just tuning into the right frequency, hence why you could get hardcore jap porn on sky back in the day if you knew the frequency to tune into :D BBC1 Scotland wont be on 1 like it is here, but they should be able to get it.

They may also have a TV channel that buys rights for these games and will have it one anyway.

Short of that if you have a computer you will be able to stream it quite easily.

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They're not die hard fans if they arranged something else over the semi final. Shame on them.

Yeah - totally.

It was organised in November, when Aberdeen was relegation fodder.

I bet they've been to more games than you this season.

I have nothing to back that up with...

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Check you getting your knickers in a twist.

I was of course jesting.

And yes, I'd imagine they have been to more games than me this season as I work most weekends.

As was I jesting mo'fo', as was I.

(I disguised my little backtracking statement in clever little white font, so that you couldn't actually read it...)

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