catherine Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 right. i work in a bar. have done for a year and a half on and off. but they always seem to have someone stealing or giving drinks away or just being thicklast night i earned 15 from workingi had to give 5 for the tils being down and owe them 14 for stock being downapparently there were 20 vodkas, 6 JD's. 6 aftershock and some bottles of VK missingand it came to like 66. and we have to all chip in to pay it into the tilfirst time they're making us pay. apparently cause they think people are giving away drink so want to try deter thembut im now gona be out of pocket if i pay.someone else refused to pay and now has been sacked and maybe barredhowever my dad told me its theft if they make us pay.its the only decent club in ayr so i cant afford to be barred. and kinda need the cash as my second jobanother thing is. (which they wont listen to me about) we sold 400 vodkas last night... and were 20 down... now that only takes 1.25mls of spillage per shot to add up. surely that is human error? not people giving it awaythis is pissing me off more than loosing my phone. whats annoying more is i think its not even someone stealing this time. its happened before but it doesnt seem obvious this time.i dont want to have to pay on morals that i aint done noting wrong yet i dont want the sack or to be barred from the only place i ever go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayeth Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 tell them to get to bent. that's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Unless they have any proof that staff stole the drink, I don't think they have a leg to stand on.If all the staff refuse to pay, then they can hardly sack everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catherine Posted October 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 i can see them doing it thoughstaff come and go every few weeks in my work. thats thje problemi dont think they take hiring the right people seriously enoughbut the problem with club work is it probably wouldnt make a difference to them if they did sack us all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catherine Posted October 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 yeah. their point was that if they charge us full price then whoever is stealing will feel bad about it and realise its costing them too muchbut im just not sure about people actually stealingmy boss was too raging last night to listen though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 You should stick together and not budge on this one, as someone said, they can't fire you all in a oner. Tell them to fuck off and burn the place down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash. Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Tell them to fuck off and burn the place down.i was going to suggest telling them to fuck off then punching them in the face, but thats a better idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 i was going to suggest telling them to fuck off then punching them in the face, but thats a better idea.Let's combine the two:She should knock her boss out cold, and set fire to the place while he's lying in a pile of blood and teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 As a nice touch, nick some of their vodka to make motolov cocktails to torch the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 As a nice touch, nick some of their vodka to make motolov cocktails to torch the place.Was just going to add that, she should pour spirits over his unconscious form and make sure he's lit up like a Christmas tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Was just going to add that, she should pour spirits over his unconscious form and make sure he's lit up like a Christmas tree.Haha the irony! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catherine Posted October 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 i feel sorry for my boss in a way though. he gets a stock take every month. and once it was £700 down (cause of this fannt of a superviser i had once) and they tried to make my boss pay for it out of his pocketfurys is a chain so he has bosses breathing down his neck. yet they wont let him install optics in the club to solve the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 No reason to take it out on the staff though. It's his problem, not yours.You'd better hope everyone else has the balls to stand up to him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_inthehills Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 never,never forget.Work hard a uni, start a company which slowly strangles your bosses business. Once he's lost everything, come in buy him out for peanuts.then as he is thrown out in to the street, laugh. Laugh at the broken man.Evil Pete_inthehills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 No reason to take it out on the staff though. It's his problem, not yours.You'd better hope everyone else has the balls to stand up to him too.Exactly. It's his job to make sure these things run smoothly.I should know, I'm a supervisor at work and anything that goes wrong below me ends up at my door eventually when it comes to blame. However, anyone in that sort of position knows this...so don't feel sorry for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metarie Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 if they won't let him install optics (and presumably that means he's tried) then he can't really blame staff for wastage.Let him cool down and go and explain to him that human error happens. The Bassment don't use optics and I'm sure they have a system for this. Suggest a wastage book or something, jot down whats been spilt and get him to sign each entry (time consuming, yes, but will solve the problem). As for the missing bottles...well I can't argue with him making you pay for them. Spirits and pints can be spilt or mispoured but it's a bit harder to explain a missing bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 As for the missing bottles...well I can't argue with him making you pay for them. Spirits and pints can be spilt or mispoured but it's a bit harder to explain a missing bottle.Can you imagine addopting this to criminal law.....someone steals a car so the police get the population of Aberdeen to pay for it....hardly fair!!And in my opinion when bottles are going missing who is most likely to be the thief, the manager or the grunts behind the bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 The last bar I worked in had a spillage book, anything you spilled or poured by accident you wrote down along with the reason and that pretty much accounted for anything, don't you have something similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 So without optics you are not entirely sure how much to pour as 1 shot? i.e. its not measured down to the last ML?Would be interesting to hear what Flash thinks of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metarie Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Can you imagine addopting this to criminal law.....someone steals a car so the police get the population of Aberdeen to pay for it....hardly fair!!And in my opinion when bottles are going missing who is most likely to be the thief, the manager or the grunts behind the bar?In my experience it's the 'grunts'. True, making people pay for missing bottles isn't much of a deterent, whoever is nicking them is still getting them dirt cheap. Maybe your manager should just keep a better eye on his staff. Seems that most bars overlook staff giving mates drinks for staff price, but giving them away free is taking the piss a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvin Starclusk Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Two words: Dirty protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 To be honest Catherine, your best bet is to get the hell out of there - it's not worth the damage to your own reputation to stick it out, at least. They're on very dodgy ground as far as deducting money from staff pay without having gone through the proper proceedures - and there are set guidelines from the goverment as to how exactly people should be disciplined for this kind of thing and so on. I'm also sure that if they aren't training staff properly, then the blame lies squarely at their door.On the other hand, you can pretty much be sacked for anything within the first year and they can get away with it, though there's some exclusions relating to unfair dismissal. If you haven't been there for a year, then it's just not worth fighting it - you might be able to beat them in court and force them to pay up the wages that they've withheld, but is it ultimately worth being banned over?The manager does sound like he doesn't have a clue how to control his staff, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I think you're right, without optics there's not a lot of leeway for spillage over 400 vidkas.If I was you I would (reluctantly) pay it this time just to make sure I didn't get sacked/barred, but look for another job quick. Once you've got another job you'll still get in the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Leave, you don't have to put up wit that kind of bullcrap... for all you know.. they might be doing this on purpose, saying they are missing stock so they can take your wages.. it's proposterous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 i aint done noting wrong yet i dont want the sack or to be barred from the only place i ever goThat in the end is the problem. I don't know how many times I've seen a pub or club treat its staff/customers with complete & utter contempt, safely knowing that they will still come running back for more. "Because it is the only place" Plenty of others out there, some are even good. Walk, or tell them to stick it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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