i think the problem here is that people, and rightfully so, just find it annoying the balls on toxic distortion to make this post, start arguments, badly defend themselves, and have such an attitude towards their music. they're right enough: they are a unique band in town, offering something different... i don't know if thats a good or bad thing, but im just saying. seriously guys you should just enjoy your band, people are not saying you can't "make something of yourselves," if you have enough passion for your music, then of course you can, but it won't be in this band. hopefully i don't sound too much of an arse