Woodsinho Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Aberdeen pop punkers Das McManus and Needleman have teamed up to put out a new split EP that asks an age old question that has troubled us all at one time or another: What Is Punx? Do we answer it? That's for you to decide! You can listen and download it for nothing or something here or here so put it in your ears right now and let us know what you think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eupraxia Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Just gave this all a listen, and really enjoyed it from start to finish. I'm going to dive straight in with a comparison, because it was so immediate to me, and that is Das McManus remind me a lot of Superchunk. In the greatest of ways. It's literally the first time I have heard the noise of Das McManus and I totally loved it. Needleman sound like they should be on the soundtrack to an early Kevin Smith film, especially Blue Blood. Sonically, it's pretty straight up and direct, and I really appreciated that. Pretty beastin'. Well done to you all, and thanks for sharing! I shall download and stick on the iPod. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Propa punx with propa gravy. Great stuff guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Needleman sound like they should be on the soundtrack to an early Kevin Smith film... Literally the best thing anyone has ever said about any band ever as far as I'm concerned. Have you listened to the Self Titled EP? Because if not, that's a motherfucker of a coincidence! http://needleman.bandcamp.com/track/attention-deficit-disorder-add xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I think the new Das McManus stuff sounds like a fuzzy ALL. Bishops Love Sci-Fi is really really great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eupraxia Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Literally the best thing anyone has ever said about any band ever as far as I'm concerned. Have you listened to the Self Titled EP? Because if not, that's a motherfucker of a coincidence! http://needleman.bandcamp.com/track/attention-deficit-disorder-add xx Hadn't heard this before! Motherfucker of a coincidence! My girlfriend sucked thirty seven dicks. In a row? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girl anachronism Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Thanks for the kind words, guys, I'm glad you are enjoying it.If anyone's interested, both bands have upcoming gigs in the next couple of weeks: Needleman are playing Downstairs tomorrow and then at The Moorings next Saturday with Absolutist. Das Mc are playing Cellar 35 this Saturday with Deathcats, Min Diesel and Halfrican. Thanks for listening :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I think the new Das McManus stuff sounds like a fuzzy ALL.ALL? Thanks for the nice words everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 ALL? Thanks for the nice words everyone! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_%28band%29 I echo the Das/Superchunk comparisons. I think we made a proper bo rekkid here I tell thee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Had a listen last night and really enjoyed all the tracks. The Das stuff sounds awesome (little weird listening to it I'll be honest after leaving the band) and the Needleman tracks were good fun. It's not a style I've ever been a big fan of but done well, as it is here, I can dig it. Phil's comment about it sounding like it belonged on a Kevin Smith soundtrack is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E.C Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 The Needleman vocals are out of tune almost all the way through each track. It's pretty offputting and kinda ruins my enjoyment of the songs overall. The Das McManus stuff is pretty cool. Definitely seeing the SUPERCHUNK comparison, and I like the screeching guitar throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 The Needleman vocals are out of tune almost all the way through each track. It's pretty offputting and kinda ruins my enjoyment of the songs overall. The Das McManus stuff is pretty cool. Definitely seeing the SUPERCHUNK comparison, and I like the screeching guitar throughout. Cheers for listening. Stroopy always moans about his singing not being in tune but it works for Fat Mike and quite a few other punk singers so i've never personally been bothered by it. It's not horrendously out either, maybe just a little bit flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I need to give this a proper spin, not on laptop speakers, but I've given it a quick skim and what I've heard sounds grand. Musically, Needleman nail it. What they do is totally my thing. It reminds me of RADON in alot of parts. I do think that the vocals are the only weakness though. I agree they are not wildly out, but there's a couple of moments that could have done with another take. The DAS stuff is solid. Interesting to hear the new stuff since I left. It's banging. Jan's biddlyboos totally wail. Gary's got a good set of pipes, and a keen eye for a memorable melody. Catchy as shit. AS SHIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Musically, Needleman nail it. What they do is totally my thing. It reminds me of RADON in alot of parts. I do think that the vocals are the only weakness though. I agree they are not wildly out, but there's a couple of moments that could have done with another take. Thanks Joe. Are there any bits in particular that you can point out vocally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 For me the vocals are neither one thing or the other. The out of tune-ness does really put me off (sorry to simply echo the above) and I much prefer the shouty-ness. I would personally look to emphasise the shouty vocal more and try and steer away from trying to be 'in tune', because I'm not sure that will ever do it for me. Conveys a lot of energy, too, which suits. I also think the bass needs more warmth but that's just being picky. I like the percussive and clickiness sound it has (it works) but just lacks a bit of depth IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 For me the vocals are neither one thing or the other. The out of tune-ness does really put me off (sorry to simply echo the above) and I much prefer the shouty-ness. I would personally look to emphasise the shouty vocal more and try and steer away from trying to be 'in tune', because I'm not sure that will ever do it for me. Conveys a lot of energy, too, which suits. I also think the bass needs more warmth but that's just being picky. I like the percussive and clickiness sound it has (it works) but just lacks a bit of depth IMO. Thanks for the feedback Adam, much appreciated. Bass sound-wise, improvement on the first EP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Definitely an improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Thanks Joe. Are there any bits in particular that you can point out vocally? I'll give it a proper listen with headphones. Laptop speakers are quite unforgiving, so it might not sound quite as blatant via better playback. I dig the bass tone. The percussive bass tone suits the style. It's very NOFX-like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 The Das McManus stuff is pretty cool. Definitely seeing the SUPERCHUNK comparison, and I like the screeching guitar throughout. The DAS stuff is solid. Interesting to hear the new stuff since I left. It's banging. Jan's biddlyboos totally wail. Gary's got a good set of pipes, and a keen eye for a memorable melody. Catchy as shit. AS SHIT. Thanks guyz! Really happy with how these songs have come out, especially since they were recorded in a super DIY fashion. Who needs more than 3 microphjones on the drums? Not Das McManus! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Oh man. I must've missed it the first time. That hook at 0:48 on Sex Couldron. Magnificent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Had a quick listen to Needleman's Blue Blood. Agree it's a better done example of this kind of music, and this recording is way more listenable than the ramshackle demos that were up in the feedback thread before. Other than that, like Chris it's is not something I'm massively into, and it feels pretty derivative: tbh, for much of it I thought "punk Chelsea Dagger" and the guitars (and to a lesser extent the melody) in the chorus sound heavily reminiscent of those in The Offspring's Kick Him When He's Down. I guess that's unavoidable in punk though and tonnes of songs probably reuse and reference other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyEB Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 OOOOOFT and moreover YASSSSSSS. I really enjoyed the Das stuff, I'm pretty gay for the boys in the band though. I thought the Needleman songs were very well recorded but not my cup of tea, I'm 36 though so it's probably cos I'm old. One thing though, if the vocals are a struggle have you considered a different tuning? Since I started dropping my guitars to Eb I've found singing a bit easier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Oh man. I must've missed it the first time. That hook at 0:48 on Sex Couldron. Magnificent.We had to cut the sleeves from our shirts when recording that part, as they were cutting the circulation off from our riffs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Had a quick listen to Needleman's Blue Blood. Agree it's a better done example of this kind of music, and this recording is way more listenable than the ramshackle demos that were up in the feedback thread before. Other than that, like Chris it's is not something I'm massively into, and it feels pretty derivative: tbh, for much of it I thought "punk Chelsea Dagger" and the guitars (and to a lesser extent the melody) in the chorus sound heavily reminiscent of those in The Offspring's Kick Him When He's Down. I guess that's unavoidable in punk though and tonnes of songs probably reuse and reference other. Cheers, It is difficult to do something "new" as a punk band I guess. I like the comparisons, apart from Fratellis obviously. OOOOOFT and moreover YASSSSSSS. I really enjoyed the Das stuff, I'm pretty gay for the boys in the band though. I thought the Needleman songs were very well recorded but not my cup of tea, I'm 36 though so it's probably cos I'm old. One thing though, if the vocals are a struggle have you considered a different tuning? Since I started dropping my guitars to Eb I've found singing a bit easier. I'm 33 and Woods is 30 so that's no excuse Mr Blair, PUNX up! Seriously though, thanks for the feedback. Recording is very much a steep learning curve and I'm happy I've at least made an improvement on the previous EP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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