Le Stu Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 I have to say, while I could be persuaded to vote for independence by rational argument, I cringe hard at nationalist friends when they start going off on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Von Mondragon Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Should be in Pet Hates, but anyone who refers to the English as "guffs" should be shot.I'm lined up against the wall this minute, as I am prone to using guffy/guffo, I've always thocht of it as quite an affectionate term for 'em down the road, much more so than sassenach, behind which I hear real hatred. The G word aint hate, naw, they don't even recognise it, they called me a 'sweaty' once, racist bassas, *goes on increasingly incoherently*The real issue is 1 Aberdonian/scion of the Shire, 2 Scots, 3 Human 4 Countercultural 5 EU, can I have my rights please 6 When I am watching something nice on the BBC, I may have a Briton moment.I write British on forms because I don't want to alert form collectors and analysers. Under the RadarNationalism is a balls concept anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryChristmas Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 It happened a lot when I was in NY. One dumb bitch thought that Scotland was an island in itself above Ireland and 'off the coast of England'.Isn't scotland split into two by the caledonian canal/loch ness/river ness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Von Mondragon Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Like Christy I only consider it when it comes to fitba in which case 'mon the Scotland, fuck England and I don't care about NI or Wales. I don't really like other sports where we compete as UK so have never supported Britain, or GB or whatever. Likewise England could thump Scotland at rugger, cricket and tiddlywinks every year and I wouldn't care. Also, this, in fact it's good when Scotland lose at Rugby, as all the bum-faced chaps get despondant, and that's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Isn't scotland split into two by the caledonian canal/loch ness/river ness?I have no idea. Regardless, what is your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 After writing that big ramble, I go on Facebook and at the very top of my Home page:make your vote count, make your vote a sensible vote.....VOTE SNP Independent Saltire is a new group set up to raise awareness of Scottish Independence. To educate people on the myths that unionists feed us and what are the real facts about independence.I haven't watched the video. It will annoy me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryChristmas Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 I have no idea. Regardless, what is your point?Trying to find out whether anyone else considered it the same, scotland having a north isle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryChristmas Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 what's your point? are you suggesting the woman is right, that scotland is an island off the coast of england?Trying to find out whether anyone else considered it the same, scotland having a north isle?I once went to the shopping centre on rockall and bought a stick of rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Stu Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 I haven't watched the video. It will annoy me.I had a good chuckle at the tired old arguments it presented.If you ever want to piss a nationalist off, just talk to them about the chronic, unresolved issues with European monetary union and the potential pitfalls facing an independent Scotland. Mention Ireland at least three times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Von Mondragon Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Just because a bit of land is bisected by an area of water, that does not make the area bisected an autonomous island, just as Islands with causeways don't unbecome islands, and turn into peninsulas or promontorys. And that goes double if a human did it, always wandering about moving stuff, the humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Essential viewing for this thread.Edit: it's actually not boring at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Fu... Wow, that was a lot of information in a very short amount of time. Also, if you didn't add that edit there, i actually wasn't going to watch it LOL.I had you in mind John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Essential viewing for this thread.Edit: it's actually not boring at allGood video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 I think it's a bit of a shame that this thread has to have the title it does - a little perjorative no?Anyway, I was born in Scotland but I have an English mum, a Greek gran and a Russian grandmother. I don't like a lot of the "qualities" often associated with Britishness (and I tend not to use the term to describe myself), but the same goes for idiot Braveheart nationalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Does anyone actually have any first hand experience of this happening? I've always thought it was kind of bullshit, but maybe I've only ever met clued up foreigners.I see the Philippines have been mentioned and this happens to me around Asia. As far as I can see it's because (East) Asian languages (at least the ones I'm familiar with) don't have separate words for Britain, UK or England and a transliteration of England is used to refer to any of those. In my country of residence the rarely used term for the UK is literally the United Kingdom of England. They do understand the difference between Scotland (which there's a word for) and the UK, but not quite the difference between UK/Britain and England. Thus I just say I'm from Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedo 808 Posted April 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 I think it's a bit of a shame that this thread has to have the title it does - a little perjorative no?The whole thread was designed to be completely ridiculous and the phrasing was borrowed from Lucky's own words. I didn't expect anything anywhere nearing a serious discussion to come from it.Bravo ab-music chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 I'm Scottish until I need a British embassy to bail me out of something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Haven't read the whole thread but always Scottish first. I'm not particularly nationalistic but that's where I was born. I get a little anoyed with drop down lists of counties on the interent not having Scotland as an option especially if it's a Scottish web site.And on the subject of foreigners getting confused my daughters in Australia just now and her tour guide thought Scotland and Ireland were at war. I think I blame Celtic and Rangers for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 I blame Celtic and Rangers for every single thing that is wrong with Scotland.Fixed that for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Fixed that for you Ha ha. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 If I'm honest I must admit to a local bias...so my order isAberdeenNorth-East ScotlandEast ScotlandBritainEuropeNorthern hemisphereEarthLocal solar systemetc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 If I'm honest I must admit to a local bias...so my order isAberdeenNorth-East ScotlandEast ScotlandBritainEuropeNorthern hemisphereEarthLocal solar systemetcSee I think of myself as a resident of the Milky Way Galaxy first, then an Earthling, Human, Man, Northern Hemisphere... etc.xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Folk are folk, I suppose, but some of those Milky Way folk's customs put me off them (that anal-probe greeting for a start). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Folk are folk, I suppose, but some of those Milky Way folk's customs put me off them (that anal-probe greeting for a start).Racist.xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 True....it was always the AA for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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