shaun Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I don't smoke. I went out to speak to a friend, on the way out I asked for a stamp from the bouncer at the top of the stairs (positioned AFTER the booth where you pay to get it) I was already in the club. He refused and told me I had to join the queue for one. I didn't have to pay to get in though as I was there before midnight. It was still bloody ridiculous though.a something similar happened to me on my birthday. i went outside to see a friend, had my hand stamped on the way out, and as i went to go back inside i was told that i'd been asked to leave several times. i'd only been in the place 2-3 minutes previous to going outside, though. oh well, i was pretty drunk and it's not like they beat me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 More common than not I'm in a relatively reasonable state when I'm out. I do have the odd night of chaos and I admit that I doubt I'd think to do it when drunk. I've never been dragged down the stairs by the neck though - note: this never seems to happen to girls, I was chucked out exodus once and was simply escorted to the door.I was meaning for other people really. We all know that you are mostly in a good state:up: The bouncer at the door downstairs has the stamp.I remember there was another bouncer on a night out(I know he was because he knows one of my friends) and he was in a complete state- by this I mean he was stumbling over hugging everyone and falling on the odd occasion yet he was let in by the bouncers. Oh and he skipped the queue that was there(must've been a Wednesday or a Saturday im not too sure). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 (positioned AFTER the booth where you pay to get it) Do I get this right? Are they charging you for the stamp to go out for a smoke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 No they aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 OK, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorge Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Well this may come as a shock to most of you but the answer to the problem is , just don't go to exodus.I've never had any bother myself, but you're spot on....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Von Mondragon Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 I once got turfed out for hiccuping, which was a bit rich I thought, on the other hand I once got refused entry for being over-pished, but I stood and POLITELY argued my case for an hour (I was amused by my own smart arsedness I think), and eventually got in for the last half hour. I think the key factor was POLITELY. One of my cardinal rules in life is that it is not worth winding up people in black uniforms (well maybe goths then). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumpy Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 in addition to my previous comment (and i appreiciate everyone being a bit nicer towards the lovely doorstaff at exodus) but if you throw drinks at people and take swings at the doorman, expect to get turffed out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Tuesday's trip to Wipe saw exemplary bouncer behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neutral Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Tuesday's trip to Wipe saw exemplary bouncer behaviour.wipe?o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF Scott Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 in addition to my previous comment (and i appreiciate everyone being a bit nicer towards the lovely doorstaff at exodus) but if you throw drinks at people and take swings at the doorman, expect to get turffed out What exactly is your point? This thread isn't about people saying "Last Tuesday I threw a pint at a bouncer then stabbed him in the face, and I GOT THROWN OUT! ITS RIDICULOUS!," is it? Its about a (hopefully) minority of cases where bouncers may have assaulted patrons, allegedly for doing nothing, or very little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metarie Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 The layout of Exodus doesn't really lend itself very well to effective bouncering though, does it? I mean, in Moshulu you can always worm your way through the crowds and have a fairly good view of what's going on, but in Exo there's just a seething mass of people, I've been right next to my friends and not been able to see them, so how the bouncers can pick someone out the crowd is anyone's guess.Just thinking of Exo has actually made me slightly panicky, it's so busy *shudders* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Well this may come as a shock to most of you but the answer to the problem is , just don't go to exodus.It will do yourself a lot of good.That is all fine and well if you don't want to go out and possibly throw some shapes to some indie tunes, but unfortunately Exodus has a virtual monopoly as it is pretty much the only decent club in Aberdeen where you can hear good indie music.And Exodus is really one of the strangest shaped clubs I've been too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inc18457 Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 where bouncers may have assaulted patrons, allegedly for doing nothing, or very little.according to said patron...in a drinking establishment, who may or may not be more intoxicated that they believe themselves to be...we've all been there, realising you were much more drunk than you thought you were on a night out.he said she said.more often than not, it's not just a rash decision that bouncers take to throw someone out, having worked in bars myself with doorstaff, they often confer with eachother about the state of a customer, saying 'give him 10 more mintutes, if he doesn't calm down, get him out' etc.to be honest, the bouncer in the 100% sober position with the various self-defence/first aid training would be who i'd believe, rather than some 18 year old oik, with one too many archers and lemonades down their neck getting rowdy because the latest "the" band have just been played.admittedly there may be some instances where door staff ARE heavy handed, but in a place as busy every night of the week as exodus, it must be a pain in the arse for the bouncers to see some idiot pissed out their face stumbling around knocking into people etc, easier just to get them out and let in someone (from a mercenary business point of view) who is sober and will spend more money.i think a more valid and concerning argument is the state of cleanliness of the place! the bar and club are disgusting, and from what i hear from friends, the beer is always suspect, flat or warm! maybe they need to close for a week or two to really sort the place out! obviously that will never happen, due to the amount of money that place must make...but there are certain people (above the age of 18-19) who don't like going because it's a)very hot all the time b) generally not very clean c) too small a bar upstairs, therefore taking ages to be served..those i think are more important issues than whatever drunken idiot got removed from the premises 2 weeks ago.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted December 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 i think a more valid and concerning argument is the state of cleanliness of the place! the bar and club are disgusting, and from what i hear from friends, the beer is always suspect, flat or warm! maybe they need to close for a week or two to really sort the place out! obviously that will never happen, due to the amount of money that place must make...but there are certain people (above the age of 18-19) who don't like going because it's a)very hot all the time b) generally not very clean c) too small a bar upstairs, therefore taking ages to be served..those i think are more important issues than whatever drunken idiot got removed from the premises 2 weeks ago..YOu think the fact that the beer is warm is more important than the fact that I couldn't move my left arm for two days. I think we're reading off a different page here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 according to said patron...in a drinking establishment, who may or may not be more intoxicated that they believe themselves to be...we've all been there, realising you were much more drunk than you thought you were on a night out.he said she said.more often than not, it's not just a rash decision that bouncers take to throw someone out, having worked in bars myself with doorstaff, they often confer with eachother about the state of a customer, saying 'give him 10 more mintutes, if he doesn't calm down, get him out' etc.to be honest, the bouncer in the 100% sober position with the various self-defence/first aid training would be who i'd believe, rather than some 18 year old oik, with one too many archers and lemonades down their neck getting rowdy because the latest "the" band have just been played.admittedly there may be some instances where door staff ARE heavy handed, but in a place as busy every night of the week as exodus, it must be a pain in the arse for the bouncers to see some idiot pissed out their face stumbling around knocking into people etc, easier just to get them out and let in someone (from a mercenary business point of view) who is sober and will spend more money.i think a more valid and concerning argument is the state of cleanliness of the place! the bar and club are disgusting, and from what i hear from friends, the beer is always suspect, flat or warm! maybe they need to close for a week or two to really sort the place out! obviously that will never happen, due to the amount of money that place must make...but there are certain people (above the age of 18-19) who don't like going because it's a)very hot all the time b) generally not very clean c) too small a bar upstairs, therefore taking ages to be served..those i think are more important issues than whatever drunken idiot got removed from the premises 2 weeks ago..You idiot.You are trying to say that it is more important that it is hot in the club(just like every other club in Aberdeen) and that the bar is too small.Compared to a bouncer dragging clientelle down the stairs quite dangerously without any regard to safety you really don't know what you are talking about.This is more than just "drunken idiots" - this thread would be closed if these were just people being too drunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 to be honest, the bouncer in the 100% sober position with the various self-defence/first aid training would be who i'd believe, rather than some 18 year old oik, with one too many archers and lemonades down their neck getting rowdy because the latest "the" band have just been played.Don't jump to conclusions - Not all of us fit that picture. For medical reasons, I have to watch it & rarely drink, yet I've had some bother.Oh, I've not seen 18 for a wee while either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inc18457 Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 You idiot.You are trying to say that it is more important that it is hot in the club(just like every other club in Aberdeen) and that the bar is too small.Compared to a bouncer dragging clientelle down the stairs quite dangerously without any regard to safety you really don't know what you are talking about.This is more than just "drunken idiots" - this thread would be closed if these were just people being too drunk.having worked in exodus and tk's for over a year a few years ago and never having seen anything of that sort happen, ever. i'm entitled to think what i like thank you.perhaps recently standards in doorstaff have slipped, but when i worked there, all the doorstaff were courteous and professional, all the time, and NOTHING as outlined in the pages before this EVER happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 but I stood and POLITELY argued my case for an hour (I was amused by my own smart arsedness I think)I think that my sympathies would lie entirely with the bouncers in that particular circumstance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted December 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 having worked in exodus and tk's for over a year a few years ago and never having seen anything of that sort happen, ever. i'm entitled to think what i like thank you.perhaps recently standards in doorstaff have slipped, but when i worked there, all the doorstaff were courteous and professional, all the time, and NOTHING as outlined in the pages before this EVER happened!Blinkered much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 having worked in exodus and tk's for over a year a few years ago and never having seen anything of that sort happen, ever. i'm entitled to think what i like thank you.perhaps recently standards in doorstaff have slipped, but when i worked there, all the doorstaff were courteous and professional, all the time, and NOTHING as outlined in the pages before this EVER happened!Assuming you were behind the bar, how would you know? The bouncers are hardly going to tell everyone how violent or awkward they've been and whenever I've been in the bar's been too busy for the barstaff to pay attention to what the bouncers are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 I know many of the people on this thread that have experienced problems, and I have to say that none of them are people I would ever expect to be thrown out for bad behaviour... and believe me I have seen them in the terminal stages of pishedness.If a bouncer genuinely has to chuck someone out then there's a good chance he shouldn't have let that person inside in the first place. So whose fault is that?TIP: For this reason people may occasionally be refused entry if the bouncer is unsure of them. How they react to that news is very important. If they show good grace and acceptance, then there's a chance the bouncer might change his mind. But more often than not, the response justifies the original decsion.If a boncer does ask you to leave, then you stand more chance of getting back in by saying "OK I'll go" and just walking straight out. Don't try to delay things by finishing drinks, or going to the toilet. Never turn your back on the bounder either. If you need your coat then say "OK I'll leave straight away, but please could we get my jacket first?"Arguing only makes things worse. The bouncer's driver will be to avoid a scene. So by going quietly you are actually helping him, which may ironically help curry some favour. Once you get outside, then as innocently an calmly as possible ask the bouncer why you were asked to leave. If it sounds bogus then say "I think maybe you got the wrong person, would you mind checking with the barstaff?" If any of your mates start chipping in then tell them to back off.If the bouncer starts to assualt you, then do not resist, but shout at the top of your lungs "HELP I AM BEING ASSAULTED". But only do this if you are genuinely being treated roughly for no good reason. Never:Threaten the bouncer.Take it's photo with your phone.Note down it's licence number unless something serious has happened.Say "do you know who I am?"Hit anything, even out of frustration (although I know this can be difficult).If you feel really strongly, then there are many safe and stealthy ways you can get your own back next week... that is if you still feel the same way a week later. Think about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inc18457 Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 perhaps recently standards in doorstaff have slipped' date=' but when i worked there, all the doorstaff were courteous and professional, all the time, and NOTHING as outlined in the pages before this EVER happened![/quote']Blinkered much?please read the above or continue to bash ahead incorrectly. as i said, in MY TIME working there, nothing of a serious and out of order nature happened.Assuming you were behind the bar' date=' how would you know? The bouncers are hardly going to tell everyone how violent or awkward they've been and whenever I've been in the bar's been too busy for the barstaff to pay attention to what the bouncers are doing.[/quote']unlike any bars you may have worked in, the bar staff and door staff were very close at tks. pretty much anything of note/of interest/out of the ordinary/violent was always discussed at length after work, when tidying up etc. but as i said, nothing of a pointlessly violent nature ever occurred in my time, so back off, big balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 unlike any bars you may have worked in, the bar staff and door staff were very close at tks. pretty much anything of note/of interest/out of the ordinary/violent was always discussed at length after work, when tidying up etc. but as i said, nothing of a pointlessly violent nature ever occurred in my time, so back off, big balls.Sorry but I'm still not convinced. If someone acts like a dick and throws someone out using excessive violence or refuses entry to someone for no good reason they're not going to tell you about it are they? Because they're just going to look like arseholes."You should have seen me earlier tonight, this stone cold sober guy came up to the door and I told him he wasn't getting in 'cause he was too drunk! What a laugh!"Don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 unlike any bars you may have worked in, the bar staff and door staff were very close at tks. pretty much anything of note/of interest/out of the ordinary/violent was always discussed at length after work, when tidying up etc. but as i said, nothing of a pointlessly violent nature ever occurred in my time, so back off, big balls.Unless you saw the cctv footage or the event itself there's no way you can 100% rely on what someone just 'says'. You aren't thinking about this logically. Sure, the majority of bouncers are great, friendly guys and gals but like all jobs there are a few cunts who've slipped through and really shouldn't be doing the job. If you think there aren't you really are an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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