Hog Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I guess you must really like My Chemical Romance as they still have a record deal.That's going by your logic.Not quite. I am not a fan of My Chemical Romance, however, I can see their appeal to a large audience. There is more to MCR than "they are shit". Even MCR have some decent chorus' etc and they provide a type of music which is popular. Im just stating that Metallica will still sell quillions of albums even after St Anger and its not because people are expecting an album like Master of Puppets or the Black Album. Metallica can't be shit to everyone because they be outsold by Saxon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Yeh but selling albums is also down to very good publicity and marketing.I see your point but there is always two sides of the coin in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Ach come on. How can anyone complain about people labelling a band as rubbish when they're smarmy enough to suggest that they have a God-like insight into what constitutes non-shite music?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Ach come on. How can anyone complain about people labelling a band as rubbish when they're smarmy enough to suggest that they have a God-like insight into what constitutes non-shite music??Who's claiming that like? If it's directed at me i don't claim to have a 'god-like insight' into what's good and what's bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Ok, maybe I was harsh, but I don't like the whole idea of having to believe that people are 'good at what they do'. It's a bit of a redundant statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Ok, maybe I was harsh, but I don't like the whole idea of having to believe that people are 'good at what they do'. It's a bit of a redundant statement.I'm not saying everyone has to, but that's the way i think so i'm never going to understand folks saying things are 'shite' or 'rubbish' without qualifying it with a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Problem is some people don't have a reason. I've certainly listened to pieces of music and just been at a loss to find anything non-rubbish about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I don't like the whole idea of having to believe that people are 'good at what they do'. It's a bit of a redundant statement.It certainly is, when what they do isn't very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 It certainly is, when what they do isn't very good.I think you're good at what you do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I think you're good at what you do!Some say what I do isn't very good, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_matter Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 You can still hate a band but respect the fact that they're good at what they do and maybe you just don't like their music.Now THAT'S what i'm getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Yep, its very subjective.You either-Think Metallica are shiteThink Metallica are goodMetallica were good but they went downhill after album ............. (fill in the blank) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Metallica were good but they went downhill after album ............. (fill in the blank)Master Of Puppets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorge Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Master Of PuppetsIs the right answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager420 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 "Lars sit down your the fucking drummer"I agree, he is a glory hound, and I do not like him as a person, especialy over the Napster thing, but he is a good drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager420 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Master Of PuppetsMaster of Puppets yes, but there is some great tunes on And Justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougfast Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 I agree, he is a glory hound, and I do not like him as a person, especialy over the Napster thing, but he is a good drummer.i dont think so, he never does anything that stands out. name one drumming bit that you were like holy fuck thats mental............not to keen on them now but i use to love them but even then never thought the drumming was that great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Gold Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 You don't have to stand out like a sore thumb to be a great drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougfast Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 you do in thrash/metal but i just think he is average, there are loads of better drummers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 lars is one of the most unexciting drummers i've ever heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 regardless of Lars' ability on drums, lets not forget he has co-written EVERY metallica song from Kill Em All Through to the black album (i.e. their glory period) except for Motorbreath, which is possibly a better accolade than ANY metal drummer on the planet. Sure there are a thousand better technical drummer's out there with various levels of profiles, but at the end of the day, it's the SONGS that make a band worth listening to. And '...Justice For All' and the black album were also fucking brilliant records, and they were a better live band in that era than they ever had been before. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and all that, but I think anyone who reckons they got "shit" after Puppets is suffering from a little bit of trying-hard-to-be-cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 ...And Justice is my favourite Metallica album, purely for the sheer scale of the songs. Despite the lack of bass in the production, every song is just fast (ok, not To Live Is To Die), complex and massive. As a beginning guitarist 11 years ago it was something to aspire to. But as a technical piece of work Puppets is their most complete album and the best produced. Black was awesome as well and was the album that got me into them, but it has paled with age as far as I'm concerned. Probably more to do with my age than the album's.Load has some decent songs (King Nothing, Hero Of The Day) and some utter shite (Mama Said) and was the last Metallica album I bought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeola Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 regardless of Lars' ability on drums, lets not forget he has co-written EVERY metallica song from Kill Em All Through to the black album (i.e. their glory period) except for Motorbreath, which is possibly a better accolade than ANY metal drummer on the planet. Sure there are a thousand better technical drummer's out there with various levels of profiles, but at the end of the day, it's the SONGS that make a band worth listening to. And '...Justice For All' and the black album were also fucking brilliant records, and they were a better live band in that era than they ever had been before. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and all that, but I think anyone who reckons they got "shit" after Puppets is suffering from a little bit of trying-hard-to-be-cool.That is a great post. The thing is I love Lars' drumming. He is a great drummer and you only need to listen to AJFA to hear how good he can be. I think the Black album his drumming is so so tasteful and solid as he set out to do. I get something from his drumming anyway and to me, that's all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_matter Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 dyers eve, damage inc and fight fire with fire. Don't get better folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 ...And Justice is my favourite Metallica album, purely for the sheer scale of the songs. Despite the lack of bass in the production, every song is just fast (ok, not To Live Is To Die), complex and massive. As a beginning guitarist 11 years ago it was something to aspire to. But as a technical piece of work Puppets is their most complete album and the best produced. Black was awesome as well and was the album that got me into them, but it has paled with age as far as I'm concerned. Probably more to do with my age than the album's.Load has some decent songs (King Nothing, Hero Of The Day) and some utter shite (Mama Said) and was the last Metallica album I bought.I agree with every part of that... other than that I wouldn't say Puppets is batter produced than the black album, even by todays super-polished standards the black album has an INCREDIBLE sound. The guitar tone, the layering, best snare sound (ever?) all within the most accessible and catchy yet heavy songs. I'm not saying it's a better album than puppets, but on production stakes I'd say it definitely is.Justice is my favourite album too... who needs bass with that guitar tone?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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