Bullying?

[Hog]

Read an article about it today and it got me thinking. Anyone been bullied? It has to be the most shitty thing ever.

When I was at school I was bullied for being small (now 6 foot so it doesnt apply now). Going to school wondering if I was going to get a kicking is really crappy.

The irony was that after a couple of years I grew up and one day I turned round and smacked one of the guys who bullied me. So, why do they do it? Inferiority complex, shit home life?

[Guest MarkJDelaney]

I think it often stems from themselves being bullied, hard home-life or simply other mental issues unknown to us. I think it's sometimes down to people being full of themselves, aspiring to be the "big-man", the one they idolise. They soon realise though, there's someone bigger and "stronger" than them, and they change their ways. Either that, or the smart ones realise what they're actually doing.

[Hog]

Certainly a lot of them are thick as shit

[lindeh]

Despite having squint eyes, virtually no neck and being half deaf, I was surprisingly never bullied...

Although from there was one girl who had a phase of 'following' me home because some friends took my side over hers- pathetic.

[Birdman]

"Bullying: We all do it and we all love it!" - Back of the Y - Danny parker

(Not Birdman)

[HummerOfIntenseEvil]

I think bullying is also a lot to do with the victim's state of mind... I was a chubby, bespectacled short-arse at school (well, still am), but I never really got bullied, and I think that was a lot to do with the fact that I never let it get to me when folk DID pick on me - I was always able to take the piss back if it was verbal, and I was never shy of throwing a few punches if need be.

As for the actual bullies themselves, I would think it's purely a result of an unhappy homelife, and that leads them to try and inflict their perceived power onto others. Or something.

[lindeh]

Hmm in some cases the bullies like to be 'popular'- if you're intimidating, people are sometimes going to be part of the gang to save their own skin. In some warped way, they may see themselves as popular. If that makes ANY sense! (3hrs sleep does this to me!)

[Fluffy]

I think bullying is also a lot to do with the victim's state of mind... I was a chubby' date=' bespectacled short-arse at school (well, still am), but I never really got bullied, and I think that was a lot to do with the fact that I never let it get to me when folk DID pick on me - I was always able to take the piss back if it was verbal, and I was never shy of throwing a few punches if need be.[/quote']

I think you have a real point there. in primary school and first few years of secondary i got buillied- verbal and intimidation. but later on, 5th year i started losing my hair and funnily enough no one really said anything (not to my face). i think this is because i was much more confident, knew its not my fault it fell out and it showed.

was also a cocky little bitch - still am lol!

EDIT: that got me a neg scene point. how bloody pathetic, esp as there as no reason

[connie]

Everyone bullies, and most people have been bullied.

Fact of life.

[Alkaline]

Everyone bullies' date=' and most people have been bullied.

Fact of life.[/quote']

I agree, i was bullied at school cause of the music i listened too and cause i was fat. I just came to terms with the fact that it was gonna happen regardless of what i did.

[Inkster]

I've been bullied before.Being called gay and a fagit and being hit for it just cause you don't sleep with every fat minger in sight isn't the greatest thing in the world but at least I got the sattisfaction of laughing at them for sleeping with the mingers

[Spoonie]

Everyone bullies' date=' and most people have been bullied.

Fact of life.[/quote']

i'm not so sure of that to be honest. i think that bullying is an extrememly serious issue which needs to be addressed but at the same time, i think that people call 'bully' when they go through the same things that every young person goes through. regardless of who you are and where you grow up, there will be things about you which are different to other people and you'll get teased for it. this is part of growing up and becoming acquainted with things in the world which are different from your perception of the norm.

i was fat, ginger and wore glasses when i was young. years later and i'm still the same!!! because of this, i have been subject to occurences of verbal abuse for the majority of my life, yet it doesn't bother me now and it didn't then. i saw other people being teased for other things and gained an understanding of how the whole cycle works.

i was raised to be tolerant of others and to ignore those who mock me. sometimes i ignore them and it gets them more annoyed, other times i just give as good as i get. i'm a mouthy bastard and it's not something that people think about when they start giving you cheek. they assume you'll shy away, particularly when there are a number of them. you just have to know how to judge the situation.

as an amusing aside, i was working the other day (i work at the UGC in glasgow) and we were throwing some neds out. proper little arseholes who were making a racket, kicking the backs of peoples chairs, throwing stuff everywhere, jumping over seats etc, and had already been warned about it. anyway, we were removing them and one of them decided to have a go at me. he's giving it all 'who does this fat prick think he is - check his sidies' then the greatest insult i've ever been blessed with - 'sidies like bridies.' i made three points to him in a clear and succinct manner:

1) the insult 'sidies like bridies' makes no sense. my sideburns in no way resemble bridies

2) how can you comment on anyones physical appearance when you come out in public wearing blue lacoste tracksuit bottoms with a pink nickleson polo shirt

3) get to fuck, you're being kicked out

i had to hold myself back from responding to 'check his sidies' with 'your ma liked them' but i felt that was too far!!

spoons

/x

[Inkster]

i had to hold myself back from responding to 'check his sidies' with 'your ma liked them' but i felt that was too far!!

Never too far if it's a ned

[Rachie]

I remember Robert Gordon's used to make a point of saying they had no bullying in the school whatsoever.

Heap. Of. Bullshit.

If anything because the teachers practically turned a blind eye to it it was worse.

Bullying is shit, very very shit, and in the end the only way to stop it is to go to a teacher about it, and even then that doesn't always work.

[Last Wrong]

'sidies like bridies.'

That is one hell of an insult!

I was bullied at primary, It was more bullied into doing stupid things rather than being bullied cos of appearance.

Got my own back on the 'ring leader' though

I believe he's now living off the dole in Montrose, what a dick.

[connie]

regardless of who you are and where you grow up' date=' there will be things about you which are different to other people and you'll get teased for it. this is part of growing up and becoming acquainted with things in the world which are different from your perception of the norm. [/quote']

That's what I meant. At school, everyone is at least verbally abused at some point or another, either to their face or behind their back. At the same time, most people have said cruel things about somebody else, either to their face or behind their back.

In my opinion, the word bullying doesn't only describe a repeated, daily process of harrassment, but also one-off, bitchy and unprovoked comments.

Most people stop bullying when they grow up and leave school, although I do know a few pathetic twats who will probably continue to do so until they die alone and un-liked by EVERYONE.

[Guest tv tanned]

Following Rachie's reply about Gordons, thought this might be of interest, and slightly relevant.

A government adviser is calling on independent schools to take in disruptive state school pupils.

Sir Cyril Taylor' date=' chairman of the Specialist Schools Trust, told private school heads they could take in one or two unruly pupils in every year group.

At a conference at Brighton College, in East Sussex, he said private school pupils would learn the importance of caring for others.

The Independent Schools Council said expelled pupils would not be welcome.

Independent schools were keen to bring in pupils who were disadvantaged - but not those who were disruptive.

Sir Cyril Taylor said the admission of disruptive pupils to the private sector would help break a downward spiral, where the 6,000 most difficult children ended up in the same 200 sink schools year after year.

He said many unruly pupils were 13 to 14-year-old boys "some of whom are quite bright"

"Behavioural problems often go with high intelligence because children get bored.

"I'm not asking you to accept a large proportion of disruptive children which would affect your other children. But I do think one or two in each year group could be a very interesting possibility," he said.

Sir Cyril, who has been an adviser to nine successive education secretaries, added: "Since your pupils largely come from privileged backgrounds it is very important that they understand the importance of caring for others who are less privileged."

Jonathan Shephard, the general secretary of the Independent Schools Council, said: "We are very keen to get disadvantaged pupils into our schools. We are not keen to get disruptive pupils into our schools.

"We have our share of difficult pupils. But to import somebody who is disruptive is not something for our schools."

Sir Cyril's call followed that of Brighton College's head teacher Anthony Seldon, who said unruly state pupils should be sent to private boarding schools.

During the election campaign, the Labour party said Education Secretary Ruth Kelly was looking at proposals to send disruptive pupils to state boarding schools for a set time.

The idea is that the pupils would be removed from an environment where they are failing and behaving badly in an attempt to improve their behaviour and educational opportunities.

Anthony Seldon told the conference: "We should respond enthusiastically to the government's plans for problem pupils to become boarders in our schools, as long as they are young enough and capable of responding positively to our environments".

The Boarding Schools Association says it has been involved in talks with the government on the issue for several years.

A spokesperson said: "The BSA advocates the educational benefits of boarding for children from all backgrounds and circumstances and it has long since supported and encouraged the widening of access into boarding schools in both the state and private sectors".

Dr Seldon also believes more independent schools should get involved in the government's controversial plans to build 200 privately sponsored city academies.

Story from BBC NEWS:

[url']http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/education/4540029.stm

[Sue Denim..]

The army had a great solution to bullying when I was in.

If someone was accused of bullying someone else or a group of people, then both the bully and the bullied had to fight it out in the gym boxing ring.

Sometimes, the bully had 4 or 5 guys beating the shite out of him. Marvellous.

[Guest valley69]

I was bullied at school and pretty much slagged through secondary. Infact im 21 now and the same bastards that did it are still having a go at me everytime they see me in town, which is usually in exodus. I really have no idea why I was such an easy target but i agree with spoonie, not everyone gets bullied or is a bully . Its a serious issue and had affected me deeply .

[Larsen B]

If they try it in Exodus again we'll all jump in and deck the cunts!

[the_beastly_one]

The most difficult thing I always found- how the fuck do you handle that when the people doing it are younger than you?

[Dayeth]

The most difficult thing I always found- how the fuck do you handle that when the people doing it are younger than you?

Tell their parents?

[HummerOfIntenseEvil]

The most difficult thing I always found- how the fuck do you handle that when the people doing it are younger than you?

...and yet old enough to know that if you hit them they can get you done for assault.

[the_beastly_one]

...and yet old enough to know that if you hit them they can get you done for assault.

Precisely.

[Rach_69]

i was bullied a lot when i moved to portlethen in primary 6 because i had a very strong english accent (i'd lived in oxfordshire since i was 1 1/2)

then in 1st year i was bullied by all the "popular" girls in my year who i had been friends with but they decided to phone me up when i was on holiday (500 miles away) and give me death threats down the phone and when i got back i was too scared to leave my house and school was HELL! eyes staring at you, judging you as you walk past, watching you every move waiting for you to trip and fall flat on your face never good

if they started any shit now i could killl them by sitting on them or messing up their perfect hair