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production lacks punch, though the lack of bass is probably partly to blame for this, and makes the guitars sound a bit empty. really liked the kit playing, though it sadly got totally lost in the mix at times, drowned out by the guitar. vocals i thought were really interesting, sounds a bit pitchshifter/modulated or something, but interesting none the less. not the kind of music that would regularly feature on my playlist but i'd be interested to hear other stuff you do.

fair enough.

I don't think you understand the point I was trying to make. I posted the threads above as an example of how fine a line it is between "music discussion", and "feedback discussion", and as an example of how the situation could possibly be remedied, so that the website's domain name has at least a little relevance. really, these people on judge judy on monday morning could have a field day with this website, making it look like the total joke that it often is. 100 page threads about pirates, all the infighting that is embarked upon daily without fail, 10 favourite 10 hated threads, i mean, what the hell has it got to do with music in aberdeen? the whole fact that this website needs supporting demonstrates how far it has drifted from (what i think was) its original purpose. i don't begrudge wastelanders their wasteland, nor bands their band forums - for 98% of this website's userbase, the website is probably ideal. however, like mince pies, the website has approximately 88% filler content, the rest possibly being real substance. this in itself is not a new discussion, and i'm not looking for any answers, just re-iterating unsolved problems.

both! all! everything! it's just annoying to me, i just feel like nobody is going to read them, and hence nobody is going to post on them, if they just get shunted straight to the feedback forum. the feedback forum is a great idea, but it seems like it's the same people that read and post on it most of the time. the good thing about the old aubl board was that most of the discussion *was* about music, and most of the people would read and/or post in these types of threads. i'm not that interested in the specific threads that were moved per se, just the concept. the boards are supposed to be about aberdeen music, music in aberdeen, music from aberdeen, it's just a shame that when people do actually discuss music, it's relegated to a small corner, to a small audience, etc. etc. there is plenty of "feedback" about bands (local or otherwise) that doesn't get moved to the feedback forums, e.g. http://aberdeen-music.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23713 http://aberdeen-music.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23731 http://aberdeen-music.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23655 http://aberdeen-music.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23684 http://aberdeen-music.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21707 not trying to make a big deal, i am obviously still going to read the threads wherever the go, i just find it hard to acknowledge where the line is drawn, i mean what about all the local shows that turn into massive feedback threads? perhaps it may be better to have "local music banter" which includes threads about local bands, touring bands (prospective or booked) coming to aberdeen and playing, gig announcements, etc. etc., and "foreign music banter" which talks about any other music not related in some way to aberdeen. these could, of course, replace "feedback forum" and "all music discussion".

yes, i was shouting. it's really annoying and inconsistent too. stop being so bloody over-zealous, new moderators!

It's often better to check some of the cash converter / pawn shops on George Street, hardly consistent, but a few bargains can be had on a good day. There's always ebay too.

if you want to go lo-fi, and aren't interested in hooking up with the MIDI side of things, then you could do as suggested and get a cheap keyboard, then run it through a couple of effects, like a guitar distortion and a little chorus. some of the most basic fm synth sounds totally come alive with a bit of distortion and other effects like tremolo (hmm, maybe the one time when a zoom multi effects may be of any use). if you can borrow a keyboard from anyone, try running it through some effects to see if it may be something that appeals to you.

well, there's certainly lots of information on the website, kind of liked the picture on the front too, different if nothing else. not sure if you are looking for a record contract or anything, but if you are, then get rid of that bio/bandography thing, because it's a total joke, i.e. - what your band name turns up in search engines - who cares? stick to the music - comparing the vocalist to robert plant? he doesn't even come close! - the music is hardly groundbreaking and is unlikely to revitalise the industry on the upside, two of the songs, "rockabilly" and "i hate you" are recorded pretty well, good enough to send off if that's what you want to do with them. not sure about the last one, seems a bit of a poor demo quality to me. i really don't like this kind of music, but that's just my personal taste. the songs are really quite generic, there doesn't sound like anything in there that hasn't been done by other stones influenced bands (even locally, i.e. moneyshot/wildcards). i actually saw you guys play at lava at the start of march, set was ok. again, didn't really like the music, but the performance was ok. you really did seem like a stones wannabe band though (not trying to insult, just going on sounds and appearances). to be honest, you really sound like a drummonds sort of band, i'm surprised you haven't played a gig there yet, you're just eric's (owner) cup of tea for friday and saturday nights, i would imagine. i can't imagine you appealing to the bulk of the crowd on this website, but you never know. as you'll find out soon enough i'm sure, it's most useful purpose is as a haphazard gig guide, anything after that is really a bonus.

not sure about the sorest, but some of them have been: going for a double somersault at bon accord the other day and landing on my back after only making 1-3/4 hitting my finger really hard with a hammer about 2 months ago, and getting to watch the nail start to fall of this week placing my hand on the hottest plate of an aga when i was a kid getting hit by a car

Dear John are also supporting at this gig.

some definite tuning issues in there, unless there's something wrong with my ears today. otherwise, i quite like the recording style, it feels very live yet sounds quite clear and crispy. reminds me of trail of the dead's source tags and codes production a bit. first track is alright, don't like the start of it too much, and the off tuning keeps putting me off, but when it slows down around 1minute, it's quite a nice change. i liked the build up back to the initial tempo. second track was probably my favourite, and i'd say it was the best written song too. reminded me in parts of nirvana, trail of the dead, and a few other bands that i can't quite place, which shows how much i know. i really like the clean guitar bit that breaks away from the normal verse around 33 seconds, reminds me of Hole for some reason. maybe not hole actually. someone though. favourite bit of the track is where one of the guitars is messing about with an expression pedal or something, between clean and distortion - that sounds really, really good to me, loved it. last song reminded me a bit of Red Man Walking for some reason! don't know why. just the chorus bit really. quite an indie-rock song, i can imagine it going down well in drummonds. not too much to say about it though, quite a simple song. overall, liked the recordings, liked the conciseness of the songs a lot, but the tuning was a bit of detraction. any gigs lined up?

maybe it's more by association, but pure by three colours red always goes down well with the windows open.

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hmm, this sounds interesting. any idea of the door cost/supports?

June 1st at the tunnels!!! can't wait!!

well, it's not exactly a good thing, but that copy of avril levigne doing chop suey.... i got to hear that, which i'm sure the record company would have wiped off the face of the earth if possible. mind you, if i could turn back time, i would not click on the link again.

yeah i forgot to say that, i stretch mine. though it's hardly a comprehensive operation. i usually put one length of the string under my shoes, and then just pull on the notch at the end of the string for about 5-10 seconds. takes out any wind if anything.

and here's a couple of tracks recorded in linux http://affronted.org/livingyou.mp3 http://affronted.org/blackhorse.mp3

also, here is an email i wrote to someone recently who was thinking about setting up linux workstations for music in a school in englandshire. -------------------------------- The logistics of getting some of this stuff running can sometimes be quite tricky unless you are quite computer proficient. However, I'm happy to help out/give advice if you are actually keen to try it out. I can't quite remember what software and hardware you said you used at school, so I'll just make some comparisons to software that is currently available for Microsoft Windows. One of the great benefits of Linux is that almost all of the applications mentioned below can work together. They all run through a sound server application that performs the task of synchronization and inter process communication for all applications. As mentioned before, all of this software is completely free; you can legally copy it onto as many computers as you want. The best thing to do is to take a look at some of the websites I mention below; most of them have screenshots and a list of features, and probably give you a better idea of what can be achieved with them. 1. One of the main uses of a computer for music is Hard Disk Recording. There are loads of applications on windows that do this, for example Cubase, Logic Audio, Sonic Foundry's ACiD, CoolEdit/Adobe Audition, Digidesign's ProTools, etc. etc. The typical setup is a multitracking software suite where you can record several tracks, overdubbing as you go, or recording many tracks at once on multiple inputs. Each track has controls for its own volume, panning, etc. On Linux, there is an application called Ardour (http://www.ardour.org) that is very similar to ProTools. It is a very powerful application, but is a great technology for teaching people the basics of computer recording - because it is the way most studios using computers for digital production do their recording. There are other applications in Linux that can also do hard disk recording, but Ardour is far and above the best application. 2. Perhaps the next most important software tool is a sequencer. Sequencers typically record or allow a user to draw MIDI sequences that are played back through a MIDI instrument, for example, a keyboard (with MIDI in), a synthesier, or perhaps a computer instrument like a VST. Many applications are available on Microsoft Windows to do this, for example Reason, Cubase, Cakewalk, etc. In Linux, there are a couple of different applications that perform the task of sequencing, aimed at slightly different audiences. Rosegarden (http://www.rosegardenmusic.com) is a fully featured MIDI sequencer that also provides score visualisation and editing. I thought this might be useful in school if you are teaching notation, for example. Rosegarden can also do hard disk recording, though not with the advanced control and manipulation of Ardour. Muse (http://muse.serverkommune.de) is a simpler, more user friendly MIDI sequencer. It can also be a hard disk recorder as well, but again, with less of the features that Ardour provides. I tend to use Muse for most of my sequencing work because it is quite similar to Cubase/Cubasis, and is very simple to use for first time users. 3. Another important category of audio applications is that of waveform editors. Waveform editors typically allow users to edit sound files or samples, doing anything from volume/normalisation tasks, to adding effects, dynamics/compression/EQ editing, fade ins/outs, etc. etc. On Microsoft Windows there are applications like Adobe Audition/CoolEdit, Sonic Foundry's Sound Forge, etc. Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net) is a cross platform (e.g. it runs on Windows, Mac and Linux systems) waveform editor. Audacity is able to use VST effects to add things like distortion, chorus, flange, reverb, delay, etc. There are also free effects that come with the program to perform the same task. Rezound (http://rezound.sourceforge.net) is a similar application but is not cross platform. It can perform most of the same tasks that Audacity can. It is probably better to use Audacity though, as it is more stable. 4. Software synthesizers (e.g. waveform generators) are a popular tools for computer musicians. They can often replicate the kind of sounds made my hardware synthesizers made by Korg/Roland/Clavia, etc. Usually on Microsoft Windows, these take the form of VST or VSTi plugins. Propellerheads' Reason also features very advanced software synthesizers. These applications often have multiple oscillators, modulators, filters with Attack, Delay, Sustain and Release settings that allow a user to completely shape the waveform. ZynAddSubFx (http://zynaddsubfx.sf.net) is a very powerful application that can produce very beautiful sounds either from presets, or by adjusting the synthesizer settings in the program itself. It is MIDI enabled so can take input from a MIDI keyboard, or from a MIDI sequencer (such as Muse or Rosegarden). This is probably the best synthesizer on Linux. Amsynth (http://amsynthe.sf.net) is another analogue-modelling synthesizer. It is a lot more like traditional hardware synths and can make some truly horrible sounds, as well as some very creative soundscaping noises!! There are actually a great deal of synthesizer programs on Linux, each aiming at a slightly different modelling technique. 5. There are a number of other miscellaneous applications for Linux that don't necessarily fit into any one category. A favourite of mine is a drum sequencer called Hydrogen (http://hydrogen.sf.net). Hydrogen performs the task normally assigned to a hardware drum machine; set the correct tempo, start punching beats into it! Hydrogen gives users access to a great number of different sounding drum kits; volumes of each instrument (e.g. hi hats, toms, kick, snare, crash, etc.) can be panned and volume controlled individually, and have up to 4 effects applied at varying levels. It is very simple to use even for absolute beginners, and is great fun to use!

http://www.aberdeen-music.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18061 there was a thread or two like this before, note the post from neubeatz in the above thread, about something called kristal, seems totally free.

that's not bad actually. especially newer stuff. any plans to play aberdeen again, didn't see you last time you were here.

oops, had tv sky in my head at the time

only heaven by the young gods is also a really good album, probably more accessible than tv sky. check out "kissing the sky" in particular, amazing. does anyone listen to unjust? i got their album makeshift grey a couple of years back, only ever seemed to get into the first half of the album but i really loved that half. also in the industrial vein, though more like industrial triphop rock, is rico from glasgow. first album sanctuary medicines is probably the best, followup violent silences is good but doesn't quite have the same darkness to it.