Hog Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 A difficult question? or obvious?Is screaming or roaring part of proper singing?I think it is and I also believe that it takes skill to pull it off properly and not damage your voice especially the guys who do it night after night on tours. There are the guys like Burton C Bell who uses both clean and dirty vocals. Also guys like Axl Rose and perhaps to a lesser extent Hetfield who you the roughness in their throat.Also guys like Devin Townsend who screams but also changes note while doing so. Mmmm what am I getting at here?Is this proper singing or is it shit. Im not asking if people like screaming etc or not in music. Im asking if its proper singing. You decide, opinions please...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1470 Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 A difficult question? or obvious?Is screaming or roaring part of proper singing?I think it is and I also believe that it takes skill to pull it off properly and not damage your voice especially the guys who do it night after night on tours. There are the guys like Burton C Bell who uses both clean and dirty vocals. Also guys like Axl Rose and perhaps to a lesser extent Hetfield who you the roughness in their throat.Also guys like Devin Townsend who screams but also changes not while doing so. Mmmm what am I getting at here?Is this proper singing or is it shit. Im not asking if people like screaming etc or not in music. Im asking if its proper singing. You decide' date=' opinions please...... [/quote']Depends if its in tune, doesn't it, it does take skill to scream properly, but 99% of performers can't do it properly and do it for effect instead, to scream is something anybody can do, the real skill for me is in people who can articulate it so that it sounds like it actually is words/lyrics not just a noise albeit in tune, I can't sing, but i can when singing over something hit a note, i just can't articulate it into something that works. I see a big difference between a good vocal range and aperformer that can scream.cheersStuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stuartmaxwell Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 how do you scream in tune??screaming is noisesurely "screaming" in tune would be called shouting?i do agree with stu though, he has a great point. i aint much of a singer and cant scream much because it kills my throat. hence i tend to shout as more ofteneither that or play instrumentals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Yeah, i think it is. I mean you definately have to be able able to holds a note. There are several shining examples of this: Howard from Killswitch (Screams in key and has an awesome operatic voice too) and Greg from Dillinger (Ditto, though less of a great 'clean' vocal). Regardless, its definately a talent- well i hope so 'cause its one of my only ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 James Brown = Discussion Ends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Screaming is screaming, singing is singing.In short, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 I would say it is as it is still sound coming from a voiceIn dictionary it says"Make musical sounds with the voice, especially words with a set tune" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF Scott Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 I'd consider screaming to be 'vocals' or 'using your voice,' whereas "proper singing" would involve some sort of melody, whether in tune or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 If screaming is singing, the noise that wakes up new parents at 3am in the morning is their baby "singing".P.S. This argument is gonna be a lot of shite anyway... if you really like screaming vocals you're gonna say it's singing, if it's not your cup of tea or you generally don't like screaming vocals you're gonna say it's not.It's a pointless debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Charity Case Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 No!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Screaming's a form of vocal output yes and I'd say takes as much skill as singing does in some respects.You still couldn't call it 'proper singing' though I don't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historicrocker Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 No... but it is good nontheless, like discordant sounds can be when accompanied to reasonable music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Borlax Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 stick it in charlotte church, youl get the answer if not try smarties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qzdiablo Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 I would say it is as it is still sound coming from a voicedoes this count?http://wings.buffalo.edu/epc/linebreak/programs/mccaffery/midnight.ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted January 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 does this count?http://wings.buffalo.edu/epc/linebreak/programs/mccaffery/midnight.ramman thats weird lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGEL O' DEATH Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 how does howard from killswitchhave an operatic voice???also he has just got a voice infection.i dont think screaming vocals are like singing, they are meant for a different affect.listen to what the frontman for opeth can do. He chooses different vocals for different moods within songs. Screaming and amazing singing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 I couldnt care less. if I like it, I like it. wether its "proper" or not can suck a fart from my dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 how does howard from killswitchhave an operatic voice???also he has just got a voice infection.i dont think screaming vocals are like singing' date=' they are meant for a different affect.listen to what the frontman for opeth can do. He chooses different vocals for different moods within songs. Screaming and amazing singing.[/quote']i meant from a projection sort of point rather than actual sound, he throws from the gut like an opera singer. thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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