paranoid Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi KimyReizegerCheers for the question."What would I like to achieve?"I would say that I am trying to obtain the unreachable through a musical journey into the unknown.I'm not setting of with an idea to discover a certain thing for I do not know where or what that "thing" is. It experimentation, a kind of alchemy.Define alchemy:Alchemy (Arabic:al-kimia) (Hebrew:??????? al-khimia) is both a philosophy and a practice with an aim of achieving ultimate wisdom as well as immortality, involving the improvement of the alchemist as well as the making of several substances described as possessing unusual properties. The practical aspect of alchemy generated the basics of modern inorganic chemistry, namely concerning procedures, equipment and the identification and use of many current substances.A lot of people get it some don't. It seems a lot of people want to be labelled as this or that and need to be given a concise remit before they feel they can step up and reply to the ad. If they don't get it then they should in no way reply.I don't like to see a musician as being wholly defined by his influence, and in many ways I see a lot of musicians inhibited by this way of thinking. A sculptor may only make statues of cast iron and that's all he does, another might sculptor might say what is at hand what can I sculpt, maybe materials, maybe words, maybe music, maybe mud, maybe all of that together, he is open to any idea. Both are valid with one more open to his or her approach.Another example may be the session musician and the heavy metal guitarist. The latter just wants to play his style in a rock band that's it. That's great but he has set restrictions for himself by not wanting to play outside of his style. The session guy might do a Jazz stint one night, a rock track for an ad the next and be on TV backing an R'nB singer. He's into the guitar as a tool and open to music as a far reaching entity, and is taking part in the bigger picture.Both are valid with one more open to his or her approach.I think through talking with a musicians who is interested about where they are at is the best way to find out if there is any common ground and if they could gel with the line-up or project. I might find a guitarist who says all these influences which suit the project, I go great and just judge things on that, turns out he's unprofessional, unreliable has a closed mind, so not suitable. I could speak to someone who says well I've played a lot of different things, I'm into a wide variety of music, is open minded about what and how they play, they want to develop and be a well-rounded musician and make satisfying music regardless of genre. May work out, a bit more info and no mention of influences at all.The music industry will have you believe all manner of non truths and mess with your head if you let. It'll have you believe that things should be this way or that. The commercial side of the music business has nothing to do with making music.Being a musician doesn't mean you have to be a part of that industry.Too many people are out there mimicking there favourite bands trying to be boxed into a way to be that is not all theirs. I have previously answered comments, stating my add may not be best written. Now after some of the responses I have had I am beginning to think that the ad is worded correctly as it is showing up where peoples heads are at with regards to their outlook and approach.So I am achieving many things as this rolls along. Musically the sound will be full textured as much as it is invisible and discreet. It will move your feet and make you think.I will be advertising for a female vocalist soon. I will try to be more descriptive with the wording of that ad.Many thanks for your response to the ad I hope I have answered your question.Best regardsHandlerWhere do you buy your drugs from? You seem to be getting really good shit... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimyReizeger Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi KimyReizegerCheers for the question."What would I like to achieve?"I would say that I am trying to obtain the unreachable through a musical journey into the unknown.I'm not setting of with an idea to discover a certain thing for I do not know where or what that "thing" is. It experimentation, a kind of alchemy.Define alchemy:Alchemy (Arabic:al-kimia) (Hebrew:??????? al-khimia) is both a philosophy and a practice with an aim of achieving ultimate wisdom as well as immortality, involving the improvement of the alchemist as well as the making of several substances described as possessing unusual properties. The practical aspect of alchemy generated the basics of modern inorganic chemistry, namely concerning procedures, equipment and the identification and use of many current substances.A lot of people get it some don't. It seems a lot of people want to be labelled as this or that and need to be given a concise remit before they feel they can step up and reply to the ad. If they don't get it then they should in no way reply.I don't like to see a musician as being wholly defined by his influence, and in many ways I see a lot of musicians inhibited by this way of thinking. A sculptor may only make statues of cast iron and that's all he does, another might sculptor might say what is at hand what can I sculpt, maybe materials, maybe words, maybe music, maybe mud, maybe all of that together, he is open to any idea. Both are valid with one more open to his or her approach.Another example may be the session musician and the heavy metal guitarist. The latter just wants to play his style in a rock band that's it. That's great but he has set restrictions for himself by not wanting to play outside of his style. The session guy might do a Jazz stint one night, a rock track for an ad the next and be on TV backing an R'nB singer. He's into the guitar as a tool and open to music as a far reaching entity, and is taking part in the bigger picture.Both are valid with one more open to his or her approach.I think through talking with a musicians who is interested about where they are at is the best way to find out if there is any common ground and if they could gel with the line-up or project. I might find a guitarist who says all these influences which suit the project, I go great and just judge things on that, turns out he's unprofessional, unreliable has a closed mind, so not suitable. I could speak to someone who says well I've played a lot of different things, I'm into a wide variety of music, is open minded about what and how they play, they want to develop and be a well-rounded musician and make satisfying music regardless of genre. May work out, a bit more info and no mention of influences at all.The music industry will have you believe all manner of non truths and mess with your head if you let. It'll have you believe that things should be this way or that. The commercial side of the music business has nothing to do with making music.Being a musician doesn't mean you have to be a part of that industry.Too many people are out there mimicking there favourite bands trying to be boxed into a way to be that is not all theirs. I have previously answered comments, stating my add may not be best written. Now after some of the responses I have had I am beginning to think that the ad is worded correctly as it is showing up where peoples heads are at with regards to their outlook and approach.So I am achieving many things as this rolls along. Musically the sound will be full textured as much as it is invisible and discreet. It will move your feet and make you think.I will be advertising for a female vocalist soon. I will try to be more descriptive with the wording of that ad.Many thanks for your response to the ad I hope I have answered your question.Best regardsHandlerI like the idealism, which is generally totally absent around here. That said, I find it hard to avoid the thought that this is all just a veil behind which unmusical people make noise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimyReizeger Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 A giant mesh of the pantheon of our amalgamated influences...Wow, sounds epic, go on......something sort of like, well, a farting soundOh, I see. A farting sound. Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 This sounds interesting. I too am a free spirited exprimentalist like yourself out to dispell preconceived ideas of genre and influence... because as we all know, noone in the history of music has ever tried that before. Instead of being sensible about the fact that any band worth listening to will have a range of influences, sometimes wide, sometimes narrow, I prefer to ignore decades of musical evolution and insist that I have none.Not bound by conventions like "talent" or "any form of training", such notions as tuning, timing and structure are meaningless to me. I'll just sit plucking the same note for days on end sometimes. My guitar doesn't even have strings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handler Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I like the idealism, which is generally totally absent around here. That said, I find it hard to avoid the thought that this is all just a veil behind which unmusical people make noise.Hi KRI can agree that I am very idealistic.I can assure you that the team which is coming together is comprised of some very talented musicians with good equipment and outlook.I seem to have stirred up some odd feelings with my post, this was not my intention.Have you ever felt that you needed something in your life that wasn't there, you don't know what it is but you know that your situation is not good for you. You make steps to try to find what clicks. We can all be mislead believing that we can buy happiness by fittting into a pre made slot. But what if you do not believe in what's being offered to you, you go searching try a few things out and eventually if your going down the right track things come together and click. What's right for you may not even be in your own knowledge. A bit like getting this line up together.I don't think I'm being pretentious, it's not my aim, just trying to be truthful to myself and others. A few folk may not accept this, but life's too short to worry about that.Hopefully there will be some positive responses to they ad, there have been already.Best regardsHandler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handler Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 This sounds interesting. I too am a free spirited exprimentalist like yourself out to dispell preconceived ideas of genre and influence... because as we all know, noone in the history of music has ever tried that before. Instead of being sensible about the fact that any band worth listening to will have a range of influences, sometimes wide, sometimes narrow, I prefer to ignore decades of musical evolution and insist that I have none.Not bound by conventions like "talent" or "any form of training", such notions as tuning, timing and structure are meaningless to me. I'll just sit plucking the same note for days on end sometimes. My guitar doesn't even have strings.Hi. I like your comments.I wouldn't say that I'm even considering trying to dispell preconceived ideas of genre and influence. We cant deny that they are there, and I freely admit that we are influenced by absolutely everything around us. I am no exception."because as we all know, noone in the history of music has ever tried that before"I don't think that our idea is to do something that has never been done before. Elements will relate directly to things past & present.And if you are aware of those people who in history have tried and failed or succeeded, then we should give them credit for trying. It's those folk who make this planet bearable and interesting for us. " Instead of being sensible about the fact that any band worth listening to will have a range of influences, sometimes wide, sometimes narrow, I prefer to ignore decades of musical evolution and insist that I have none."To be fair, there aren't many bands worth listening to, as a lot seem to be puppets spouting various untruths. Maybe the amount of influences people have are directly related to the sum total their life experiences. Like I've said,As a player you have to be aware that your playing is influenced by more than what you hear."I prefer to ignore decades of musical evolution and insist that I have none."I prefer to ignore decades of human evolution and insist that I have nI really like the next bit!"Not bound by conventions like "talent" or "any form of training", such notions as tuning, timing and structure are meaningless to me. I'll just sit plucking the same note for days on end sometimes. My guitar doesn't even have strings."I love how your mind works.You should be a producer.Best regardsHandler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 This sounds interesting. I too am a free spirited exprimentalist like yourself out to dispell preconceived ideas of genre and influence... because as we all know, noone in the history of music has ever tried that before. Instead of being sensible about the fact that any band worth listening to will have a range of influences, sometimes wide, sometimes narrow, I prefer to ignore decades of musical evolution and insist that I have none.Not bound by conventions like "talent" or "any form of training", such notions as tuning, timing and structure are meaningless to me. I'll just sit plucking the same note for days on end sometimes. My guitar doesn't even have strings.I wish I could rep the fuck out of this, especially as the thread starter has missed your sarcasm big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelecasterSam Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I wish I could rep the fuck out of this, especially as the thread starter has missed your sarcasm big time.I don't think he missed it at all......I think he's just pulling everyones chain ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi. I like your comments.I wouldn't say that I'm even considering trying to dispell preconceived ideas of genre and influence. We cant deny that they are there, and I freely admit that we are influenced by absolutely everything around us. I am no exception."because as we all know, noone in the history of music has ever tried that before"I don't think that our idea is to do something that has never been done before. Elements will relate directly to things past & present.And if you are aware of those people who in history have tried and failed or succeeded, then we should give them credit for trying. It's those folk who make this planet bearable and interesting for us. " Instead of being sensible about the fact that any band worth listening to will have a range of influences, sometimes wide, sometimes narrow, I prefer to ignore decades of musical evolution and insist that I have none."To be fair, there aren't many bands worth listening to, as a lot seem to be puppets spouting various untruths. Maybe the amount of influences people have are directly related to the sum total their life experiences. Like I've said,As a player you have to be aware that your playing is influenced by more than what you hear."I prefer to ignore decades of musical evolution and insist that I have none."I prefer to ignore decades of human evolution and insist that I have nI really like the next bit!"Not bound by conventions like "talent" or "any form of training", such notions as tuning, timing and structure are meaningless to me. I'll just sit plucking the same note for days on end sometimes. My guitar doesn't even have strings."I love how your mind works.You should be a producer.Best regardsHandlerAce response to a silly, verging on cheeky, post. Hats off and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 If this turns out to be an ad for an Oasis covers band, I'll be raging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I don't know where to begin ... This is excellent.Handler m'boy god luck and goodspeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest idol_wild Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Maaan, I really need to get stoned and re-read this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimyReizeger Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 This is the most romantic thread ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTickingTime-Bomb Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Hi KRI can agree that I am very idealistic.I can assure you that the team which is coming together is comprised of some very talented musicians with good equipment and outlook.I seem to have stirred up some odd feelings with my post, this was not my intention.Have you ever felt that you needed something in your life that wasn't there, you don't know what it is but you know that your situation is not good for you. You make steps to try to find what clicks. We can all be mislead believing that we can buy happiness by fittting into a pre made slot. But what if you do not believe in what's being offered to you, you go searching try a few things out and eventually if your going down the right track things come together and click. What's right for you may not even be in your own knowledge. A bit like getting this line up together.I don't think I'm being pretentious, it's not my aim, just trying to be truthful to myself and others. A few folk may not accept this, but life's too short to worry about that.Hopefully there will be some positive responses to they ad, there have been already.Best regardsHandlerWhen I read your posts, sinister music plays in my head. Like there's something unsettling and ... well, bad going on.Still, I'm sold. Where do I sign to join the Cryptic Cult of Uplifting Ideals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I'm trying to decipher if you are Dr. Victor Egobia from Nigeria and wish to present me $31 million for joining your band. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I'm trying to decipher if you are Dr. Victor Egobia from Nigeria and wish to present me $31 million for joining your band.You bet me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedo 808 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 What sort of stuff do you write about lyrically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handler Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Guitarist Post Now Filled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thanks for all your replies to my advert for a guitarist. I'm pleased to say that we have found a super guitarist to join us on our adventures. If we treat him good , maybe he'll stick around.Best regardsHandler:up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrowdownhill Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 so basically you want someone to do something ,your not quite sure what, but they cant play their instrument the way they can but the way you want them to because your some kind of insane cult leader who uses chickens for slippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project-6 Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Hi. Why are you leaving your band?RegardsHandlerMy band is just finishing our last album then that will be it. so come next year i will be free to play. 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizen Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I play harpsichord with my chin. Guitars are way too conventional.Can i join? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handler Posted December 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Position FilledHi.Thanks for the renewed interested in this post.But the position of guitarist and vocalist have both been filled.I'm very pleased to say that the people involved in our jams are really positive and have brought a lot to the project already.All the people taking part are excellent musicians and have really nice personalities too which has made our jams an absolute pleasure.If only we can get as many people to come to our gigs as have read my original post. Wishful me thinks.Merry Crimble, one and all!!!Handler 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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