StewCat Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 what the hell is 'metrosexual'? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 what the hell is 'metrosexual'? .metrosexual (met.roh.SEK.shoo.ul) n. An urban male with a strong aesthetic sense who spends a great deal of time and money on his appearance and lifestyle.metrosexuality n.That, or somebody who screws buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 right' date=' so a homosexual person is supposed to think "oh, hang on, i can't be gay, i can't be myself, i can't have fun, because well, i have to reproduce"?[/quote']no, just pointing out that gay sex does nothign for the future of the race, for which wat sex is intended. Sex is only fun, so that we do it, the fact we have chosen to abuse this (for which im not complaining) using condoms and such is irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 why would it need to feel good? QUOTE]so we do it thus continuing the race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 no' date=' just pointing out that gay sex does nothign for the future of the race, for which wat sex is intended. Sex is only fun, so that we do it, the fact we have chosen to abuse this (for which im not complaining) using condoms and such is irrelevant.[/quote']Ok, so why the aversion to homosexuality if it's okay by you to have sex not to reproduce?Also, did you read any of the links I posted or any of the facts Nullmouse posted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullmouse Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 so we do it thus continuing the raceWhich brings us back to the suggestiong that anything that doesn't result in procreation shouldn't be enjoyable, otherwise your positive encouragement cycle would promote the sticking of knobs into anything that felt good. Plus it doesn't answer why women have orgasms. Surely just arousal and getting wet would be sufficient, why waste a whole system of nerves and complex interactions on something that has no bearing on procreation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fli$ Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 A friend of mine from college is gay...and no, he is not a fashion accessory, infact i didn't find out he was gay until about 6 or 7 months after i met him. A few months ago or so I was asking him, you know, how he knew he was gay. He told me he doesn't really know, all he knows is he is repulsed by a naked woman's anatomy but likes a man's. It may not be "natural" or "right" but he can't help the way he feels, and neither can anybody else in that position. So no-one really has the right to question it - each to their own..To him thats the way it is, we speak about "relationships" and the rest,just the same as I would with a straight friend. He just doesn't make his sexuality an issue, and neither does anybody else. Thats the way it should be. Sexuality along with many other areas of predjudice just shouldn't be made into an issue, good or bad. Fair enough say "children shouldn't be exposed to this" but there's a lot worse things they could be exposed to...and are on a daily basis. I don't particularly enjoy witnessing homosexual couples continously being all over each other and sticking their togues down each other's throats, but I don't enjoy heterosexual couples doing that either. There's a time and a place for everything no matter what sexuality you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Also' date=' did you read any of the links I posted or any of the facts Nullmouse posted?[/quote']To be honest no i didnt, i also didnt read half the posts, mainly only the ones that were directed at me, just could not arsed. Theres too much reading and im to tired and at the end of the day all i ever tried to say was that homosexuality is a natural defect due to having no real purpose other than pleasure. How can you say its not? If we were all gay, the world would end - fact. This goes against anythign nature stands for - survival. sex has become on object of huge desire, yet at the same time its become plain dirty. I mean, porn is trashy, sleazy yet at the end of the day sex (between opposite sexes) is a natural occurence - abseolutley nothign dirty or sleazy about it. For all I know I'm gay, if I am I will accept that there is some sore of defect in me and get stuck in. However, I feel quite sure this is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Surely just arousal and getting wet would be sufficient' date=' why waste a whole system of nerves and complex interactions on something that has no bearing on procreation?[/quote']But it does, it just makes the women want to do it even more no? surely, the more enjoyable the more chance people will do it, thus continuinint the ra....blah blah.Dont be conned into thinking we have any other purpose on this world other than to reproduce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 To be honest no i didnt' date=' i also didnt read half the posts, mainly only the ones that were directed at me, just could not arsed. Theres too much reading and im to tired and at the end of the day all i ever tried to say was that homosexuality is a natural defect due to having no real purpose other than pleasure. How can you say its not? If we were all gay, the world would end - fact. This goes against anythign nature stands for - survival. sex has become on object of huge desire, yet at the same time its become plain dirty. I mean, porn is trashy, sleazy yet at the end of the day sex (between opposite sexes) is a natural occurence - abseolutley nothign dirty or sleazy about it. For all I know I'm gay, if I am I will accept that there is some sore of defect in me and get stuck in. However, I feel quite sure this is not the case.[/quote']I can say sex has other purposes than procreation through the evidence I've cited and personal experience, really.If we were all gay, the world would not end, although mankind would become extinct, however, that's an absurd argument. If Godzilla was real, the world would end too. What's your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papafuzzz Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 i dont get how this marco guy only buggers straight men, slightly beyond me that, in the middle of it do they go, "you know what i dont like this" hmmpriscilla is the greatest movie, i sat and watched it drunk last night, beatiful i tell youalso chasing amy is a great film about homosexuality, in my opinion. i like it when banky says that he understands men being gay but not women because everyone needs dick, its jsut some guys like dick more than others(sorry if anyone has already said what i ahve, but i got bored on page 3 and wanted to say my chasing amy bit)oh i just read a bit of page 9, godzilla would not destroy the world, just fuck it up a bit, now if mechagodzilla was here that would be another story!and bryn has some good points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 oh i just read a bit of page 9' date=' godzilla would not destroy the world, just fuck it up a bit, now if mechagodzilla was here that would be another story![/quote']Aye, I realised that after typing. Galactus then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papafuzzz Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 rita from the power rangers, now theres someone who could end the world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Dont be conned into thinking we have any other purpose on this world other than to reproduce.If so, does this mean we are not allowed to do anything else, unless it leads to procreation? Do we have to sit still in a cave, eating raw meat and grains until a fertile female comes along?Stop using the barest minimum example to justify your views on issues which are infinitely more complex. Go back and think about what you're actually objecting to, as I'm not sure anyone knows any more,including yourself.If you're saying homosexuality must be wrong, because it does nothing to further the species, then stop eating chocolate, stop playing football, stop listening to musiczzzzzzzzReally, forget what you think you know, think about it again, and tell me why I mustn't be allowed to walk through Duthie Park holding another man's hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project S.A.M. Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Dont be conned into thinking we have any other purpose on this world other than to reproduce.1. If' date=' as has already been suggested is plausible, a proportion of homosexuality in a population is healthy and is conducive to the continued survival of a species, would that reverse your position?2. Where does this "purpose" derive from? I take it you're not looking to Genesis ("go forth and multiply") to justify that statement. Why is the act of producing a life the undeniable sole fundamental value? Obviously, you can't say that the value derives from the life you have produced, apart from the extent to which that life goes on to reproduce, and then so on and so on...And gays [i']can reproduce, it's just that they wouldn't enjoy the necessary act so much.You don't seem to pick up on the implications of your argument. If the only valuable lives are those that reproduce, what of those who don't reproduce? They must be without value, purposeless. So why isn't it wrong to end such lives, or prevent them even beginning?at the end of the day sex (between opposite sexes) is a natural occurence - abseolutley nothign dirty or sleazy about it. And what about a couple of tramps having unprotected sex in a sewer, and being really turned on by it. It's heterosexual and reproductive, but the idea seems pretty sleazy and dirty to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 A little fact for some people= HIV in the UK is, at the moment, more widespread amongst straight people rather than gay people. Think about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullmouse Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 But it does' date=' it just makes the women want to do it even more no? surely, the more enjoyable the more chance people will do it, thus continuinint the ra....blah blah.Dont be conned into thinking we have any other purpose on this world other than to reproduce.[/quote']Go back and read my posts again. Again, by your logic if something feels good then people continue to do it. As vaginal intercourse isn't some huge peak of sexual gratification that can't be emulated in other ways then by your logic other things that feel good would be encouraged and positively reinforced. I'm not arguing against you here, just repeating what you're saying.Again, read through my posts. I don't feel conned into believing in a biological reason for a persistent trend that has survived in multiple species in the animal kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allsystemsfail Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Why should tolerance of sexual deviancy be promoted? I firmly believe that it is an aquired trait caused by the environment the child grows up in' date=' same as paedophiles are a product of their life experiences. If someone grows up to be homosexual, then fair enuff, but why celebrate it? The laws changed in this country so its not illegal to be homosexual, isnt that enough? Don't you think the media encouraging campness and events like the gay pride thing pushing it in the publics face, merely causes more intolerance because it makes it so prominent? Why do the adult (over 50) homosexuals that I know, act like everyone else, yet the younger ones around 20 or so act like raving graham norton clones? If they want to announce to the world their sexuality with every turn of phrase or tone of voice, thats their choice and if someone who is homophobic notices it and gives them a beating, its their fault for waving a flag saying "i am gay" surely.Why do goths get beaten up and ridiculed, do you think perhaps its because they have bought into a lifestyle and decided to be overt about it? It's their choice.[/quote']Sexual deviancy? Get a clue. You condone also gay bashing?You believe that homosexuality should be hidden away? And yet you still insist that you are not homophobic. I'm lost for words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allsystemsfail Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Young children don't "question without prejudice". They believe without applying logic and have no experience to apply to it either. This is why they are vulnerable' date=' and should not be exposed to corrupting influences.[/quote']The fact that you believe homosexuality a corrupting influence, and not heterosexuality, proves your homophobia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Go back and think about what you're actually objecting toIf you're saying homosexuality must be wrongI don't not agree with homosexuality, I wouldn't object at all to two guys holding hands. You have all over read my posts. Someone questioned why I thought homosexuality was a disorder / defect and I told you why I thought so, it doesnt mean I hate 'hate' gays.I don't hate or judge dyslexic people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarmaTsunami Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 i was going to put in an additional two cents here....the so called 'promotion' of tolerance towards 'sexual deviance' - in what way am i sexually deviant? just because i'm gay doesn't mean i'm into kinky shit, which i would class as sexual deviance. maybe i, or any other gay person, enjoys pretty straight-laced sex as opposed to breaking out the whips and chains. also, i wouldn't exactly class it as ''promotion'', i mean it's hardly fun/character building being picked on for something you can't change. i've never had hassles but known people who have. so why not teach tolerance of people who are gay/bi/transgender? it's hardly promotion - ''be gay and get this nifty toaster'', fuck that, it's about tolerance and acceptance. i don't want the world to turn into ''queer eye for the straight guy'' watching, fag-hags. Just you know...having some rights we currently don't have and not being hassled would be nice is all. And i can't see ANYTHING wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stripey Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 *sigh* this is clearly going round in circles, so all I am gonna say is that I'm against ALL forms of violence and persecution, allsystemsfail. I am not homophobic either, I just don't agree with the way its been turned into a fashionable fad, which was the topic of this thread in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allsystemsfail Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 *sigh* this is clearly going round in circles' date=' so all I am gonna say is that I'm against ALL forms of violence and persecution, allsystemsfail. I am not homophobic either, I just don't agree with the way its been turned into a fashionable fad, which was the topic of this thread in the first place.[/quote']I'm sorry, but you were indeed condoning gay bashing. You said, did you not, that if a person were gay, and were quite open about their sexuality, then if he/she were to receive a beating, they then should have no one to blame but themselves. Your intolerance proves your homophobia. It is clear for all to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepeep Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 but...(sorry to go on about this)...you are homophobic (as someone alread pointed out) in that you think it should be banned, or kids shouldnt "witness 'it'"...that in it self is homophobia"I have gay friends" , I wonder how long they'd remain friend if you knew they thought you thought they were disgusting, and should only "do what they do" indoors, when it's alright for the rest of us "world saviours" to frolick and have fun in the sun.who here, who's "not homophobic, but don't think that gay's are "right" " is religious ? (based on that whole "you must procreate when having front bum sex" ?(a valid question ?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stripey Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 I'm sorry' date=' but you were indeed condoning gay bashing. You said, did you not, that if a person were gay, and were quite open about their sexuality, then if he/she were to receive a beating, they then should have no one to blame but themselves. Your intolerance proves your homophobia. It is clear for all to see.[/quote']No, of course I don't condone gay bashing, dont be absurd. I'm not getting back into this because its pointless and you are twisting everything I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.