Stripey Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 go listen to "there is no greater love"...do it!....then come back and say she's talentless...ah, taste...can't like jazz, fair enough!The thing that bothers me about people like winehouse, is that she isn't a jazz singer or a soul singer. She's a person pretending to be aretha franklin or billie holliday, she's an actress, not an artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 She needs to be put into a room with Britney and shot. She's butt ugly, got no talent (writes her own songs my arse, not that they are good in the first place) and her voice is terrible and irritating (no, just because it's "different" doesn't mean it is good)she should be shot because she's butt ugly? that's harsh o_O i don't see how it's got any relation to how good her (great) voice is either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 The thing that bothers me about people like winehouse, is that she isn't a jazz singer or a soul singer. She's a person pretending to be aretha franklin or billie holliday, she's an actress, not an artist.why isn't she a jazz or soul singer, out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 why isn't she a jazz or soul singer, out of interest?I just explained why in the rest of my post, maybe it went over your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepeep Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 much like you deny you are a troll!....aye, very soild reasons...bring on the list....we need our orders.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 much like you deny you are a troll!....aye, very soild reasons...bring on the list....we need our orders....if anyone's trolling here it's you, tbh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 IMHO....Amy Winehouse has been ruined by the media. I agree that she wouldn't be half as famous if she wasn't so fucked up.Im sure that she has the ability to appeal to the masses who have moved on from Keane.Seriously, I don't dig her music. However, I do think that she has a decent voice but...it doesn't matter...she will be dead soon.Funny how the tabloids hardly ever talk about her music. Yes, they got it right. I always want to open the paper to read about how fucked up Amy Winehouse is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 ... does anyone else just not really give a shit?She's a pretty good singer from what I've heard of her music. Good, but not the best. I'm quite willing to discuss her musical qualities/deficiencies, because she's a singer and that's what she does.So she's addicted to crack. So are thousands of other people in this country. I don't really see why I should feel particularly sympathetic towards her. From what I've seen/heard, she's a right state at the moment, but why should I care about her situation more than about anyone else's plight?Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I just explained why in the rest of my post, maybe it went over your head.you said she was pretending to be billie holliday or aretha franklin; you didn't explain how you came to that conclusion. personally i think she can sing well within jazz songs and is thus a good jazz singer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 You could argue she brings it on upon herself. I mean if your husband is an idiot and lands himself in prison, you don't call off a whole tour. Who does she think she is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven Dedalus Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 The thing that bothers me about people like winehouse, is that she isn't a jazz singer or a soul singer. She's a person pretending to be aretha franklin or billie holliday, she's an actress, not an artist.I actually sort of agree with you.It all feels like a pose, an act.I remember seeing her on some BBC concert thing, and her backing band were all dressed up in black suits and sunglasses, and the sound was really thin and weedy, etc.It came across as being about as authentic as the Blues Brothers.(and before anyone has a go, I know that the Blues brothers band was more or less Booker T and the MGs in all but name. And I like the Blues Brothers...)For me, it's a show, a performance. I don't think it's real, and she's sort of pretending to do it.And she pretended a bit too much, and has ruined herself because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluesxman Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I actually sort of agree with you.It all feels like a pose, an act.I remember seeing her on some BBC concert thing, and her backing band were all dressed up in black suits and sunglasses, and the sound was really thin and weedy, etc.It came across as being about as authentic as the Blues Brothers.(and before anyone has a go, I know that the Blues brothers band was more or less Booker T and the MGs in all but name. And I like the Blues Brothers...)For me, it's a show, a performance. I don't think it's real, and she's sort of pretending to do it.And she pretended a bit too much, and has ruined herself because of it.Her backing band are a well respected soul/R'n'B outfit, there was an article about them in Mojo or summat the other month. So I don't think they are all a pose, it's what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven Dedalus Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Her backing band are a well respected soul/R'n'B outfit, there was an article about them in Mojo or summat the other month. So I don't think they are all a pose, it's what they do.I know, but they're 'soulful' in the sense that Sade was 'soulful'.Ie. They're not.It's al;l style and no substance, and the fact that they wore little Blues Brother's suits to make it more 'classic' says it all for me.They're nae bad, like. But it's better when they don't pretend to be Motown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluesxman Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Anyway, isn't Amy Winehouse's backing band the Dap-Kings, as in Sharon Jones' band? If so, believe me, they are the real deal.Yes, that's them, couldn't remember the name.Steven for a journalistic type you don't have much impartiality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven Dedalus Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Yes, that's them, couldn't remember the name.Steven for a journalistic type you don't have much impartiality That's what makes me so brilliant, so explosive!I just shoot my mouth off and stuff comes out, most of it ill-thought through.(If indeed it was thought through at all...)Anyway...I know the Blues Brothers did Stax! I was just using Motown cos it's more Winehouse's bag....And I know who the Dap Kings are (although I didn't know that was them backing her up....), but it still doesn't ring true for me. It's as authentic as Phil Collins doing "You Can't Hurry Love", and I believe he was wearing a Blues Brother's style suit in the video for that...Yes, Winehouse has a good voice. Yes, some of the songs are really entertaining (Not to me personally, but I completely see the appeal). But I stll see it as being an act, rather than the real deal.Please don't ask me to clarify what the 'real deal' means. Just have a guess, and you may be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.Pel Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 that first photo has been edited to fuck, no-ones got spots like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 that first photo has been edited to fuck, no-ones got spots like that.It was probably Stripey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 that first photo has been edited to fuck, no-ones got spots like that.Welcome to the real world, that's what she looks like *without* being photoshopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 That's what makes me so brilliant, so explosive!I just shoot my mouth off and stuff comes out, most of it ill-thought through.(If indeed it was thought through at all...)Anyway...I know the Blues Brothers did Stax! I was just using Motown cos it's more Winehouse's bag....And I know who the Dap Kings are (although I didn't know that was them backing her up....), but it still doesn't ring true for me. It's as authentic as Phil Collins doing "You Can't Hurry Love", and I believe he was wearing a Blues Brother's style suit in the video for that...Yes, Winehouse has a good voice. Yes, some of the songs are really entertaining (Not to me personally, but I completely see the appeal). But I stll see it as being an act, rather than the real deal.Please don't ask me to clarify what the 'real deal' means. Just have a guess, and you may be right.no really, what does the 'real deal' actually mean? o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer_eldritch Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 But I stll see it as being an act, rather than the real deal.Please don't ask me to clarify what the 'real deal' means. Just have a guess, and you may be right.Yeah i can see your point. Only too often when i see some of these new 'soul' singers on tv, the first words that come to mind are "fake jazz". You often get on tv shows like the X factor, Sinatra wannabes and so on. It seems that a lot of music is about reenacting eras of the past that are now deemed "cool". When i see these people perform, it just doesn't feel genuine to me. But you know, if thats what people want to be entertained by. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Yeah i can see your point. Only too often when i see some of these new 'soul' singers on tv, the first words that come to mind are "fake jazz". You often get on tv shows like the X factor, Sinatra wannabes and so on. It seems that a lot of music is about reenacting eras of the past that are now deemed "cool". When i see these people perform, it just doesn't feel genuine to me. But you know, if thats what people want to be entertained by. . .listen to her first album; there's nothing 'fake' about the jazz on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupot Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Amy Winehouse is just another graduate from the Brit School, just like Kate Nash, Lilly Allen and the rest.She could just as easily have ended up in Eastenders or in Casualty as been a singer. They take them when they graduate and mould them into whatever they want them to be. Much cheaper and more efficient than paying out for an a & r department and developing an existing act, who may get a bit lippy and demand to be treated seriously.If you care and want to know who "the next big thing" will be, buy The Stage and read the classifieds at the back. If you see an ad that says, " Female singer, 18-22, bubbly, outgoing. Wanted for musical project." there's the next Lilly Winehouse or Kate Allen or whatever their equity name happens to be. I wonder if you can place bets on it? Oh, and make sure you're aware of the difference between the entertainment industry and the music industry. If you aren't, you'll end up going, "She/he's shite, How can people buy that drivel/that's so invalid/not cool/insipid pop shite/god I can't stand James Blunt/wankwankwank/I don't believe anyone can like that even though she/he has sold 40 million records and cracked the states/etc/etc/etc!!!" Then you'll drive yourself insane with, the unfairness of it all/why can't I sell 40 million records/all I need is a chance/I can write better than that/fucking emo wank, dilemma and die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 YouTube - The Charlotte Church Show Amy Winehouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 YouTube - The Charlotte Church Show Amy WinehouseUuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh god. That was awful. I had to stop listening after a minute my ears were bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Heard about her trashing her hotel room after the Brits. "But she's so talented! Poor Amy!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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