Mothership Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 You could be right...Trump will offer to save the Lemon Tree as a thank you for his Scottish roots......oh, but, as part of the plan he'll demolish Union Street and build 20 executive casinos (built by Stewart Milne, so that only 5 addicted millionaire gamblers who weigh less than 12 stones each can be in each one at the same time, in case the floors collapse).But of course he'll do it tastefully, with each building being in tartan brick, with chrome turrets echoing Balmoral castle, and cartoons of Scottish kings in a frieze along every wall.Aye, Stewart Milne must look on enviously at Trump's fine head of hair. If only we had such fine solutions to hair loss here in Scotch-land. I could surely benefit myself.The only thing that could stop Trump's redevelopment of The Lemon Tree and Union Street would be the discovery of an endangered species unique to the area. That thing that used to live on Stewart Milne's head could fit the bill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Nice one! It's probably been breeding quietly in the undeground bit of the Denburn...possibly with rats or even some mutant humans raised by the rats. Instead of Romulus and Remus it'd be Rolanda and Mastricklanda.I expect it only comes out in the early hours of the morning, to pick off the occasional drunken reveller who has wondered too far down Patagonian Court in search of a dry bittie to piddle in.I'm beginning to be quite fond of the wee thing now:love: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemz Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Stewart Milne is tryin to buy my dads land off him in Westhilll...10 years this has been going on...What gets me is, why would anyone want to pay 250k to buy a luxury house thats about a millimeter away from your neighbour???Alan you should go post your comments about Trump here...Belmont-street.com :: View topic - TrumpI was all for the golf course when i first heard about it...then i found out about the eleventy million houses he wants to build...how convienent...8-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Stewart Milne seems to get away with all sorts of hideous developments...you'd think he had enough money that he could sit back and maybe splash out on something to actually improve the city (like buying the Triple Kirks and doing it up in an exciting/impressive way that retains the old spire, then donating it to the people of Aberdeen for some kind of useful purpose). He certainly doesn't need to borrow wheelbarrows from William Tawse anymore!!!Maybe he really could redeem himself by taking the Lemon Tree down, brick by brick, and attaching it to the Triple Kirks.*goes even deeper into dreamland* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemz Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Maybe he really could redeem himself by taking the Lemon Tree down, brick by brick, and attaching it to the Triple Kirks.Genious idea...8-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcn Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Stewart Milne seems to get away with all sorts of hideous developments...Yeah, have you seen the one off Queens Road? Why anyone would want to live there is beyond me. They are the slums of the future!!New build houses in general really bug me, as all the houses are literally two metres apart. We should just all save our money and build an Aberdeen muso hippy commune :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Yeah, have you seen the one off Queens Road? Why anyone would want to live there is beyond me. They are the slums of the future!!I read that taxi drivers call that 'Tillydrone West' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcn Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 I read that taxi drivers call that 'Tillydrone West'Haha, quality :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Von Mondragon Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Who invoked the spirit of Mastrick?? Relocate the LT there, in the Summerhill Lodge, no repo man will dare park their car in that bad area.I won't have any commies in my car.......No Christians either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saf-one Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 So due to the sad circumstances we've moved Adventures Close To Home to MOSHULU for Dec 22nd (The Needles last ever gig + Copy haho ACTH DJS and Giles walker)Not ideal but dem it the breaks....and the Moshulu team are sound and know what there doing so it should be a great night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mothership Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 I read that taxi drivers call that 'Tillydrone West'Indeed!Aberdeen - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Brown Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Yeah, have you seen the one off Queens Road? Why anyone would want to live there is beyond me. They are the slums of the future!!New build houses in general really bug me, as all the houses are literally two metres apart. We should just all save our money and build an Aberdeen muso hippy commune :-)I live next to the bloody things as well. They look like Jenga blocks. PS - Is The Complete Stone Roses cancelled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootray Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 PS - Is The Complete Stone Roses cancelled?One can only hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest -becky- Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 just a quick update.. had huge response with an email inbox full of messages from contacts from offshore and Aberdeen companies willing to donate and provide contacts. Also from people providing contacts from the local industry who are interested in lemon tree as an arts venue. Just to re-iterate, the campaign is about raising public awareness over the loss of a major arts organisation in Scotland, we want the lemon tree to be preserved as an arts organisation and not whatever other business/council sees fit to do with it.Use Save The Lemon Tree - Home to have your details logged. If anyone has anymore questions please contact info@savethelemontree.org. As for the band contacts, we are currently trying to secure a venue for a fundraiser gig. Keep them coming! Thanks to all the positive people out there who see the campaign as a worthwhile effort.Word on the street is that there will be a peaceful protest at castlegate at 7pm tomorrow.. with instruments and general noise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandhussy Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Castlegate tomorrowI for one will be there!The Lemon tree has ment so much to me over the years and I think everyone getting together to show thier support for this amazing venue and its fantastic staff is a great idea!Lets make it a night of riotous fun and shared memories! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Stax Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 I for one will be there!The Lemon tree has ment so much to me over the years and I think everyone getting together to show thier support for this amazing venue and its fantastic staff is a great idea!Lets make it a night of riotous fun and shared memories!I'm sure the local residents will be loving that...o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 I'm sure the local residents will be loving that...o_Ohud yur wish minthe castlegate residents just loved 65daysofstatic BLASTING out their stuff @SHIFT in the Castlegate, hardly think LT demo is going to provoke a backlash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Stax Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 hud yur wish minthe castlegate residents just loved 65daysofstatic BLASTING out their stuff @SHIFT in the Castlegate, hardly think LT demo is going to provoke a backlashTowns house in the middle of the week would be more effective and under the noses of some relevant parties... I'm all for awareness raising and would dearly love to see the LT open again. but can we please ensure that the correct processes are in place, the right people will be in charge and a long term plans has been developed. Otherwise it could all be folly... I may be coming across a little cynical at times but I worry that good money will follow bad, again. I have an feeling that something good will come of all of this though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 but can we please ensure that the correct processes are in place, the right people will be in charge and a long term plans has been developed. Assuming you know the answers you should share them with the right people, whoever they may be.There are obviously people out there already speaking about doing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Stax Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Assuming you know the answers you should share them with the right people, whoever they may be.There are obviously people out there already speaking about doing something.Awaits the latest from our fine local tabloid...There is a part of me that is quite excited about something new and better coming of this. Just a damn shame it had to take so long and has been done in this manner. I have no idea what is going on and will stop posting after a glass or two...Apologies to all for my pessimism.Lets here it for the physical manifestation of Aberdeen-Music.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Ach...I should have known you were pished! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Awaits the latest from our fine local tabloid...There is a part of me that is quite excited about something new and better coming of this. Just a damn shame it had to take so long and has been done in this manner. I have no idea what is going on and will stop posting after a glass or two...Apologies to all for my pessimism.Lets here it for the physical manifestation of Aberdeen-Music.com aye & my chilli(an) red is going down a treat as well, however I totally applaud the efforts being put in by the young folk of The Lemon Tree & everyone should put aside their views & support their efforts. Again lets get behind them, get the foot wedged in the door, b4 it shuts, so they BUY time & see what happens. Just perhaps they can magic up a major sponsor ot twoTest 1 get as many poeople to the Castelgate 7pm tomorrow PASS the word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Stax Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 aye & my chilli(an) red is going down a treat as well, however I totally applaud the efforts being put in by the young folk of The Lemon Tree & everyone should put aside their views & support their efforts. Again lets get behind them, get the foot wedged in the door, b4 it shuts, so they BUY time & see what happens. Just perhaps they can magic up a major sponsor ot twoTest 1 get as many poeople to the Castelgate 7pm tomorrow PASS the wordYup! It's the young folk running it is what it needs. Someone with some gumption at least. Right, consider me applauding from a distance!*heads for wine and good music*J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prof_lofi Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Best People I've ever worked withWhat I don't think people on here understand is that we haven't just lost a music venue, we have just lost Scotland's leading arts organisations.My first experience of The Lemon Tree goes back over a decade to when I was doing drumming workshops on a Saturday morning. I've also been to summer schools there and was a member of the Lemon Tree Youth Theatre since its inception. This gave me many opportunites including the chance to perform one of our productions in Glasgow in front of other young people from across Europe, MSPs, MPs and MEPs.Since then, I've attended so many gigs. However, to an extent I agree with some people on here: there are still places to go for gigs in Aberdeen (albiet, nowhere near as suitable as The Lemon Tree was for folk / jazz / blues / traditional / experimental). This is not what it was all about though. WE HAVE LOST A VITAL ORGANISATION WHICH, TO A HUGE EXTENT, WILL TAKE ABERDEEN OFF THE CULTURAL TOURING MAP WHICH THE LEMON TREE HELPED TO GET US ON IN THE FIRST PLACE. There is now no professional small or medium scale theatre in Aberdeen which is capable of promoting the same quantity and quality of theatre / dance / comedy / kids' shows that they did.You only have to look at the press's phenomomenal coverage on this story over the past couple of days. The Times, The Herald, The Scotsman, Radio Scotland, Radio 2, BBC One Scotland, STV and GMTV have all shown that they are appalled at this shock move.Yesterday's Tom Morton show on BBC radio was dedicated to his own and listeners' fantastic memories of the place.The Lemon Tree was set up 'to provide somewhere for artists that would not otherwise get the opportunity to play in Aberdeen' I wholeheartedly believe that they achieved this to the best of their ability, considering all the financial and pressure they have been in since day one.I believe we must all fight to save what has become part of our cultural heritage. I have grown up with this place and don't want to imagine the faces of the disabled drama group when they are told they can no longer meet or the over 50s drama group or choir that they have nowhere to perform.SAVE THE LEMON TREE - Save The Lemon Tree - HomeThe best way forward, from what I can see, is to spread the word even more than we already have and let your employers know about the campaign!Hi Everyone,Been holding off posting because of how personally sensitive I feel about the loss of the Lemon Tree and all that it means to me. It's hard to read some of the comments here that seem naive at best, if not purposefully hurtful. But since I post here for all my shows, I guess it would be bad manners to not at least comment once on the situation. First, this isn't going to be some balanced statement, not at all. I had a very personal stake in the Lemon Tree even if I saw it's flaws and handicaps. I've never worked with such amazing people. And seriously, I'm not just saying this out of some 'the ship is sinking, say something poetic' sensibility...It's sincere when I say that the staff there are some of the most genuine and committed people I've ever worked with. But having said that, I do understand many of the comments on here, from the 'don't pump money into a leaky bucket' to the 'best venue Aberdeen's ever seen' and all the rest. At one time I've had most of those thoughts as well, and of course if you're only exposure to the Lemon Tree is as a music venue, how can you not see it in only these terms?But much of that changed when I actually started working there. Now,---I know that's not an option that everyone can have and isn't the point, but once I was exposed to the shear volume and diversity of work that was occurring as a result of the Lemon Tree, I realized that most of my opinions were being formed from a very narrow perspective and misconception of what the Lemon Tree actually was and I had no idea of the scope and amount of work and love that the L.Tree pumped out to the community. Yes, I said love and it might sound ridiculous hippy bullshit, but it's not, and I ain't no hippy-most of you who have strayed into one of my concerts know that. Yes there were amazing shows, yes famous artists played there, yes it's the top venue for local bands to aspire to etc. But that doesn't hold a candle to what the real value of the Lemon Tree was and what it was really achieving quietly and constantly behind the scenes, not asking for any pats on the back or accolades etc.And that includes the drama groups with disabled people that wrote, performed, and organized their own plays. Want to talk about quality and commitment? They were top notch, and the Lemon Tree and staff were there to provide that experience to sold out audiences. Would a local bar do that? There's the seniors group that met every week with more enthusiasm than any local band I've ever seen...and not just choir and brass bands (who are there and excellent as well) but full on rock bands with 70 year olds giving it there all-who's going to step up to support these people? There's the puppet shows with world famous artists performing to hundreds of children who will always remember these events. There's the Thursday lunchtime gigs for up and coming bands. And there's the Youth Music development that I was coordinating that had some of the best tutors in Aberdeen giving lessons for free in the absolute worst areas of town to kids that really, I mean, REALLY needed it, need some hope and some opportunities.This is what we've lost, this is the true shortsightedness of the council, this is what we should all be gasping about. I can't tell you how many times I was at one of these centers when kids had to freeze in their tracks until the community leader ran out to remove the drug needles littered across their path...Who's going to support these kids and provide them with opportunities to 'get out'? I mean, it goes on and on and on the amount of work like this that was pumping out into the community. And not a fucking word about that in the paper or on the radio...no, just 'Isn't it a shame we won't get to listen to xyz' on Wednesday nights. So yeah, I think it sucks we lost a great venue, but I think it's a tragedy that we lost an amazing arts organization that really cared about it's community and the people it served, all the while having to labor against a mistaken identity as a commercial music venue. With the closing of the Lemon Tree I've spent most of the week telling the tutors that they won't be able to work with their kids, telling the community centers that their music programs are over, and next week I get to go and meet with all the kids across the city we've worked with and personally to try and explain why all of a sudden it's all over, and that's just my little slice. All the other arts development workers will have to do the same with their communities too. The Lemon Tree was much more than a center or venue, it was a heart pumping support out into the community and supporting groups that really needed it, in ways that no other arts organization was doing, and none as well.Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 ...in ways that no other arts organization was doing, and none as well.BillThrought the whole of the UK I would vouch.I think one massive mistake the Lemon Tree has made throughout it's entire existance is in not banging it's own drum loud enough and making everbody realise what went on there.It beggars belief that the council are willing to just shut the door and throw away the key! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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