Hog Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Just wondering what you think is better.Dimebag- self taughtHendrix- self taughtand I think they have/had their own unique style because of no external interferenceHoweverVaiSatrianiHammettKnow their way around a guitar and can probably play a wider variety of musical styles.What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I think self taught.... WITH THIS BOOK!http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3721069397eyethankew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I like self-taught players as well 'cause as Hog says you learn your own sorta style without anyone else pushing methods onto you and you can learn what/how you're comfortable playing on guitar.What about you Hog you never mentioned if you're self-taught or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayeth Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I think a combo of the two is good....bit of your own style, bit of input from someone who really knows their stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted April 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Originally posted by psydoll:I like self-taught players as well 'cause as Hog says you learn your own sorta style without anyone else pushing methods onto you and you can learn what/how you're comfortable playing on guitar.What about you Hog you never mentioned if you're self-taught or not? Me... Im 99% self taught (if you class 3 weeks of guitar lessons) I really try to carve a style for myself but Im sure I could play better if I had lessons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Both players can be good, but self-taught may gain a bit more admirability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Rocker Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Even if you teach yourself you will end up having your playing tainted by the people that you listen to and whose songs you have learned. Also, if you are entirely self taught then you probably end up missing out on loads of knowledge and techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feeble! Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Yeah, I think it depends more on how well your teacher can teach you as opposed to just getting lessons. I think both are acceptable, but yeah - it's easier to get your hands on stuff if you have lessons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neubeatz Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Yes, a good thing is that an experienced tutor can show you tips and tricks that you might take ages to learn on your own,I also think that "individual style" is quite important, it's not something that you can learn from a book, but a good tutor/teacher should enable you to develop your own style to a greater degree,But a lot of tutors are like driving instructors and will show you copycat shite for 20 per hr that you could learn from a book anyway, Try to find a tutor who is genuinely interested in your development as a musician, not just after your wallet..lol!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I think a guitar teacher is good to get people started but after a while you can teach yourself. If you are willing to seek new techniques and practice them selves. Teacher or not you are going to be influenced by other players be they pros or friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulscoconutass Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I'm self taught but i've given myself some disabilities which i'll probably never lose - making it harder for me to play solo's... Although the satisfaction of knowing that i've got so far on ym own is quite a feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmygoodein Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 a teacher is a useful person. However learning from yourself is just as important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Start with lessons, but theres only so much to learn about rock guitar + most teachers are shit if your not a beginner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-matthEw- Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 self taught. picked up a few bad habbits along the way but overall i dont feel i would have been any better off with a teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ibid Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Moray College do 12 x 2hour lessons for 50, but only for absolute beginners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Originally posted by -matthEw-:self taught. picked up a few bad habbits along the way but overall i dont feel i would have been any better off with a teacher. A while ago I thought like that but then I got a set of 8 lessons at Bruce Millers. Although by the 8th lesson it started getting pretty shit, the first few have been invaluable for my progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 self taught is the way to go.although i sometimes wish i had someone to show me how to do shit that sounds ace on cds but not a teacher though.teachers can git tae fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 I'm self-taught, but after too many years to mention I still only know a few chords, and can't bar. I think I must have skived, or not paid attention when I was showing myself what to do.Mind you, I can't stand techno-flash guitarists anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Originally posted by Alan Cynic:I'm self-taught, but after too many years to mention I still only know a few chords, and can't bar? Really? It's one of the first things I learned, but I'm backwards sometimes.I agree with you. Really flashy-flashy stuff only seems to impress other musicians, but it's like vocaublary, the more you know, the more eloquently you can express yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Originally posted by Lawy Lawson:Attorney:but it's like vocaublary, the more you know, the more eloquently you can express yourself. I've never thought of it like that but that statement is really accurate. I don't understand people who play guitar but don't want to be good.Maybe I shouldve been 17 in the 80s..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Yeah the more you know the better in my opinion I can't stand that anti-technique point view a lot of punk type players adopt. Fair enough if your music is like that but it doesn't mean you have to be a gash guitarist the rest of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cynic Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 You're probably correct, but I was fired-up by punk really, when all you had to know were 3 chords, and attempting to learn a fourth was selling out to "the man", so the anti-technique was bred into me. Mind you the polar opposie is equally irritating....the guitarists who spend all their time practiscing "hammering-on" or whatever .....it just makes my teeth ache when it's overdone (although I think I spotted Hog doing it to excellent effect on Friday).Lawy's right, though....nowadays I'm limited in what I can do, and I'm not proud about that.(note to self: buy another copy of Bert Weedon's "Play Guitar the easy way") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 I don't think there's any harm in spending lots of time practicing certain techniques. It doesn't mean you have to fill a song with flashy playing it just means that when it comes to doing a certain part you are skilled enough to do it well. It also lets you delve into different styles if that takes your fancy...or take influence from different styles and put them in your own playing. Perhaps someone who just sticks to three chords has good music but as a guitarist it's a no show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 Originally posted by Tav:I don't think there's any harm in spending lots of time practicing certain techniques. It doesn't mean you have to fill a song with flashy playing it just means that when it comes to doing a certain part you are skilled enough to do it well. It also lets you delve into different styles if that takes your fancy...or take influence from different styles and put them in your own playing. Perhaps someone who just sticks to three chords has good music but as a guitarist it's a no show. I'm by no means a good guitarist, I get by...I think. But I definitley want to learn so I can apply diffrent sounds and textures to what I do. To get back on topic, If I had the time and money for lessons, I'd like to smooth out some of my technique a little and learn without the temptation to just mess around, as self teaching can become. I totally agree that you can go TOO far though. When I attempt to write, I want to write something I could hum or I'd that'd hook me easily. I think that's more important than being able to shred lightning fast or whatever, although I'd like to be able to do that myself and try and implement it in stuff I do, just so that option is open to me and so I could use it if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feeble! Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 Originally posted by Lawy Lawson:Attorney:I'm by no means a good guitarist, I get by...I think. But I definitley want to learn so I can apply diffrent sounds and textures to what I do. To get back on topic, If I had the time and money for lessons, I'd like to smooth out some of my technique a little and learn without the temptation to just mess around, as self teaching can become. I totally agree that you can go TOO far though. When I attempt to write, I want to write something I could hum or I'd that'd hook me easily. I think that's more important than being able to shred lightning fast or whatever, although I'd like to be able to do that myself and try and implement it in stuff I do, just so that option is open to me and so I could use it if necessary. But the lightning shredders may get hooked easily on more lightning shred.Maybe they want something they can rock out to, I don't knowIt works both ways I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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