666 Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 jeez, where's your fookin' DEFTONES?!?!a nu-metal compilation ain't no nu-metal compilation if there ain't no My Own Summer (Shove It) on it. ...you can't miss out on some early Incubus either.and maybe stick on a little Orgy, Skindred and of course OTEP as well. okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sludge Posted March 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 deftones slipped under the radar.but they are noted.i was thinking early incubus aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 if Machine Head are metal gods then im the sex god!get real!and slipknot are nu-metal to the bone!!!and nothing is wrong with the genre!So you're a sex god then? I'll give you 'Slipknot' and 'Iowa' as nu-metal then. 'Vol. 3' certainly isn't' date=' neither was 'Mate Feed Kill Repeat'.I'll also let you away with 'Machine Head - Supercharger'. Not the rest of their stuff though.'Burn My Eyes', 'The More Things Change', 'The Burning Red' and 'Through The Ashes Of Empires' are [b']NOT nu-metal. Fact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 i love machine head... but burning red and the especially terrible supercharger are nu-metal unfortunately.Bear in mind nu-metal only got a bad name due to so many shit bands in the genre. There were also a few good bands. I assume Drowning Pool got mentioned, can't get more nu-metal than 'bodies'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 taproot - nu-metal plus a bit of alice in chains style vocals.and Downer... if anyone remembers them. And also tha band beginning with 'A' who had John Davis from Korn's brother singing from them. Aenima, but not that, but close.And powerman 5000?And I'm sorry Mr Angel Of Death, but I seriously suggest that Burning Red is nu-metal...One finger riffs and robb flynn rapping... lack of solos and guitar harmonies. You get the picture if Machine Head are metal gods then im the sex god!get real!Hmmm... I'd say that the fact they released 'Burn my eyes' makes them one of the greatest metal bands there has been! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 OK OK hehe.BME, TMTC and TTAOE aren't though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Agreed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skacel Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 you need to get deftones - engine number 9 on the go, guarenteed to cause and accident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Commander Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 And also tha band beginning with 'A' who had John Davis from Korn's brother singing from them. Aenima' date=' but not that, but close.[/quote']Adema is the band you are looking for. What makes something nu metal? Going by this thread slipknot, spineshank and hed(pe) are all branded Nu Metal, but I think that they are very different bands. Slipknot are more thrashy, while spineshank are quite industrial sounding, and hed(pe) bring in a more hip hop sound. Does Nu Metal even exist? What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Adema is the band you are looking for. What makes something nu metal? Going by this thread slipknot' date=' spineshank and hed(pe) are all branded Nu Metal, but I think that they are very different bands. Slipknot are more thrashy, while spineshank are quite industrial sounding, and hed(pe) bring in a more hip hop sound. Does Nu Metal even exist? What do you guys think?[/quote']Adema - thank you!I wouldn't say Slipknot are thrashy though... i've always thought of them as a pop death metal band, or an extreme nu-metal band. Riffs, and song structure wise it is essentially nu-metal. Spineshank as well, are merely a slightly industrial sounding nu-metal band (same goes for powerman 5000) and Hed(pe) are definitely a nu-metal band - half the point of nu-metal was that it introduced hip-hop/rap into metal! (Korn/limp bizkit/linkin park)Nu-metal to me refers to bands that came out (roughly) between 1995 and 2000, that had 3 minute pop structured songs, that were relatively simple but sounded heavy because the guitars were tuned down. Rapping was often a part in some of the bands repetoire, and songs were based around a catchy or moshable chorus and the essential middle 8 before the last chorus which had a build up before a nice obvious breakdown in which people could generally jump around like lunatics. Baggy trousers, hoodies and chain wallets were the order of the day as well...Covering an 80's pop song also happened quite a lot. (orgy/korn/limp bizkit/disturbed etc etc)If anyone wants any further information consult the rammstein edition of metal hammer in 2002 where I won letter of the month with a "11 steps to forming a nu-metal band" guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 If anyone wants any further information consult the rammstein edition of metal hammer in 2002 where I won letter of the month with a "11 steps to forming a nu-metal band" guideOoooh, I don't have that issue... care to post your letter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 haha, if I could find it. I have over 8 years of every metal hammer issue stored in various places... so finding it might be of a bit problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 St Anger is Nu-metal IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeola Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 i dont see deftones as nu-metal at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamsterpants Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 I dont think nu-metal is even a valid genre anymore, is it? ?( maybe too many shitty bands have given it a bad name, but the sound is so diverse now that i dont think most of those bands would be considered "nu-metal", ESPECIALLY not machine head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 that godsmack band too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatecampaign Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Just because a band became big around the Nu-Metal time doesn't mean their Nu-Metal, Machine Head are thrash full stop! Drowning Pool, Godsmack, and Slipknot were probably playing gigs long before Nu-Metal was even invented! Nu-Metal is pretty much EMO! And EMO is the biggist pile of shit I've ever seen!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Machine Head are thrash full stopI disagree. I can't think of the right "terminology" or genre that Machine Head fall under, but I wouldn't say thrash.Slayer are thrash. Anthrax are thrash. Megadeth are thrash. Not Machine Head... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medichi Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Machine Head's sound from Burn My Eyes is without doubt based on the classic Bay Area Thrash sound, but updated. Since then they've added and subtracted elements, and are a straight-up "metal" act, but thrash is still at their core... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HateEvent Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 They have thrash roots and have a few thrashy riffs, but I wouldn't classify them as a straight up thrash band... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Just because a band became big around the Nu-Metal time doesn't mean their Nu-Metal' date=' Machine Head are thrash full stop! Drowning Pool, Godsmack, and Slipknot were probably playing gigs long before Nu-Metal was even invented! Nu-Metal is pretty much EMO! And EMO is the biggist pile of shit I've ever seen!!!!!!![/quote']To be honest I think that is a very silly comment, because you are mistaking the term 'nu-metal' as being simply the derogative term for a style of music that became too popular for it's own good. Just like 'emo', which in certain circles is used as a term for the latest shitty popular fad, rather than what it really actually means (emotional hardcore). Nu-metal wasn't always considered a bad term, up until it become overly popular and lots of shit bands came out of it's popularity. Same goes for metalcore these days; which is considered a BAD term! Bands like Killswitch Engage and Unearth have totally rejuvinated metal by combining hardcore and metal, and breathing new life into the genre. (although this idea has been done since as far back as '85 - with S.O.D's first album). However like nu-metal and emo before it, 'metalcore' seems to now be just a term for shit popular metal bands.Drowning Pool, Slipknot and Godsmack weren't playing gigs before nu-metal was invented... they were some of the bands that helped to actually invent it!And the first proper nu-metal record was possibly Korn's debut album... however I'd argue that Rage Against The Machine were (one of) the first nu-metal band(s). (Again, DON'T think of it as a bad term - think of it as a style of music that eventually become shit due to many wank bands overkilling it)Oh, and I would say that Machine Head's 'Burn My Eyes' WAS a thrash record - they just tuned down their guitars and injected a bit of hardcore, and a different lyrical perspective than classic thrash bands. And I'd agree with Medichi that these days they would simply come under the category of 'metal', along-side the likes of metallica and anthrax etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sludge Posted March 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 ok guys - thanks for your help but ive decided just to make a nickelback compilation instead.cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 And the first proper nu-metal record was possibly Korn's debut album... .True. Why some people think that Max Cavalera is the "godfather" of Nu-metal is beyond me. Roots was a fairly decent album but it was very much a Korn wannabe album i.e. the sudden change in direction from Chaos AD etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamsterpants Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 ok guys - thanks for your help but ive decided just to make a nickelback compilation instead.cheers. o_O wont take you long, they only had one album, didnt they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 o_O wont take you long' date=' they only had one album, didnt they?[/quote']You'd have hoped so but I'm pretty sure they're on their fifth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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