I've heard numerous reports of a hard sell with Venture so I don't agree. What's the frame got to do with it apart from the fact you can't buy the picture without it? Rip off. The frames are irrelevant. I could go to a framing shop, see a larger selection of frames and not pay as much for them IF that's what I wanted. It's total nonsense. Venture are a bunch of charlatans. I'm glad they've closed, although I am sorry if that's impacted you badly in any way but that's just the way I feel about it. Also, I hear that their photographers have to attend some sort of course at their own expense and be constantly reviewed and if they are not up to scratch attend the course again at their own expense... taking the piss.