Hugh_Jazz Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 "you've got the bows and arrows, I've got the brains"......Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calum Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Peter, what would you do if we got a Scottish head of state, and complete devilution form the British parliament and the queen?Get a job, maybe? Or kill himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsby Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 "you've got the bows, I've got the brains"......"Let's make lots of money" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skuzzlebutt Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 "Let's make lots of money"hahahaha epic... i'd give you rep, but it wont let me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 "Let's make lots of money""you must spread some reputation around before giving it to bigsby again"gah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Dow Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Download the Peter-Dow-on-TV video!you don't explain it at all. you just spout a load of half assed ideas that serve only as justification for your use of the standard. the lion rampant was created specifically for royalty not scotland itself. it's the standard for the king of scots and cannot be claimed as anything else. you should really be flying the st andrews cross, and i think you know that to be true otherwise you wouldn't have even bothered with the strange and half assed justifaction on your website.you do realise that your nonsense actually degrades the arguments for nationalism don't you? incidentally peter, what are these leadership qualities you possess which give you the right to be 'scotlands national standard bearer'? how many men do you lead?On the page I linked to earlier -The functions and duties of a Scottish National Standard Bearerat the foot of the page, you can click through to the forum in which there is more to read on this, but if you missed that daveofficer, here is a link directly to the forum post itselfThe For Freedom Forums. Forums for robust political debate. Inspired by Scots, open to all.Daveofficer there is nothing which degrades the arguments for the SNP under Salmond more than them saying they are going to keep the Queen as head of a Scottish state.Scottish Nationalist FailingsActually "keeping-Queen-Elizabeth" is not an argument for nationalism per se but an argument for treason against the Scots because no-one but an enemy of Scots would want to lump us with that incompetent, disaster-inviting cunt Elizabeth as our head of state.The Royal Disasters. The Terrorist Killer QueenI understand daveofficer - and understanding is the prime requirement for good leadership.Anyway, I have demonstrated leadership enough to set up a website and get a 10-minute programme on TV - now obviously, I have a long way to go in terms of getting more Scots to follow my lead on the issues, but a fair start I would say.Anyway if you want to understand download the Peter-Dow-on-TV video and read my website. Links to my website in my signature and here is the links to download the video coming up.Too late to see all the New Ten Commandments now but the 100 minute programme consisted of 10 10-minute film-chaptersThe New Ten Commandments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaand because I starred in the one of those 10-minute film-chapters "The Right of Freedom of Assembly" by David Graham Scott, I have uploaded a version of this broadcast onto my website and made it available for download if anyone wants to see it.Now you can see the Peter-Dow-on-TV video! Download The Right to Freedom of Assembly - Film/TV-programme starring Scottish republican Peter Dow from my Scottish Republican News page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Anyway, I have demonstrated leadership enough to set up a website and get a 10-minute programme on TV -Big whoop.This website got a whole half hour on the people's court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Dow Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 It's tomorrow, right?Totally watching. Peter, I happen to think that you're brave but entirely strange to campaign for the Scottish Republic while being self-admittedly dependant on the British state. I feel that you encapsulate the essential dichotomy of the Scottish independence movement.ie. We just want it both ways The UK state is not really a "British" state - it is anti-British for much the same reason as the UK is an anti-Scottish state. Imposing Queen Elizabeth hurts the British people the same way as it hurts the Scottish people.Sure if my fellow Scots insist that the officers of the UK state should be allowed to arrest, to torture, and to imprison me, prevent me from working doing the job I want to do, the least I expect is money to live off. I want the UK state dead and gone as soon as possible. Do you really think Le Stu that I am satisfied with only what the UK dole or sick benefit gives me? You think that is what I aspire to? Not at all.Of course a Scottish republican state in Scotland should provide social security to those who need social security.Ideally of course, a competent state would not prevent people from turning up to university to complete their studies and then go on to work in their chosen profession.Ideally a Scottish republican government would insist the universities were properly run and actually allow people a fair opportunity to be students instead of kicking them out of university like a dog whenever the management feel like it.Peter Dow's Scottish National Standard Bearer websitewebsite - Peter Dow's Scottish National Standard Bearer website.The For Freedom Forums -Re-direct to For Freedom Forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 a true leader would surely not use bravenet.peter, you're showing a distinct lack of understanding in so many of your arguments. don't get me wrong, i'm a nationalist and a republican but i don't believe your style of argument really helps to further the debate and only weakens any argument nationalists make. your grasp of scottish history is pretty poor and you seem to misunderstand the role that the modern monarchy actually plays in this country and indeed other countries within the commonwealth(she's still head of state of numerous independent countries, canada and australia for instance).i actually find it pretty offensive that you can use tragedies like dunblane to try and further your misguided and extremist views. your arguments are cheap, tacky and fucking idiotic.i presume you have permission from the copyright holder to offer that video up for free download on your website right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Dow Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 LOVED the Ali G style intro. That was dope. Y'know, they really gave you 2/3rds of your allotment there, but what the fuck was up with fencing you off outside the rock???There is a secret that certain people don't want other people to know me or about other very clever Scottish republican socialists - something they have never wanted people to understand about the likes of me.We are clever and able and so, for example, I was able show up even many of the university staff here in Aberdeen if given a fair opportunity - that is why they banned me from university - to stop me showing myself off as superior to many of the professors and lecturers. Rather than lose face to someone considered to be "just a student" - they banned me from university and destroyed my professional career as a scientist. For the university managers, it is more important not to lose face than it is important to help someone's career as a scientist or anything else.It is also why the local political parties such as Aberdeen SSP banned me from their meetings - again I can out debate most if not all other Aberdeen socialists, nationalists or whatever. The party managers put their own positions of authority in the party ahead of what is good for the cause - shame on them.So that is also why Scottish royalists like Salmond wanted Scottish republicans and socialists kept well away from the crowds - to stop us showing up the treason against Scots committed by the royalist MSPs who invited Queen Elizabeth.Signature -Peter Dow's Scottish National Standard Bearer websitewebsite - Peter Dow's Scottish National Standard Bearer website.The For Freedom Forums -Re-direct to For Freedom Forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hobo Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 The bottom left quarter from side on looks like Roger Kimmet!same DNA ?(I think you'll find they banned you from the university for anti-social behaviour. Peter Dow, Oh HowWill you get an ASBO?fol-low-ing a rowo'er the Scottish National Standddddduuuuuurrrrrrdddddd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Dow Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 i walked past it cus my mate lives near and saw he has a union jack flag upi confused, i thought he was a nationalist? and hates the queen?Again Justin, it is a lot easier if I just give a link to the appropriate page in my website.Threats from the United Kingdom (U.K.) Signature -Peter Dow's Scottish National Standard Bearer websitewebsite - http://scot.bravehost.comThe For Freedom Forums -Re-direct to For Freedom Forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Dow Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Peter, what would you do if we got a Scottish head of state, and complete devilution form the British parliament and the queen?Well the first order of business I presume will be to impeach and remove the bad president you lot have just elected as head of state.The important difference between electing an idiot head of state and electing an idiot MP or MSP is that all means necessary to remove a head of state are allowed in democratic theory.If a head of state, whether the head of state be a monarch or a president - is so incompetent or down-right bad and evil that he or she has got the police or the army going round locking up political opponents - turning the country into even more of a fascist police state than it is now, then you as a nation being threatened by your own head of state cannot afford to allow things to drift because lives are at stake.So say you lot, elect oh I don't know - a former famous football manager or pop star as head of state - because he or she is really popular with you - but actually he or she doesn't want to or know how to defend the human, civil and political rights of the Scots - he or she has got no idea how to defend the written Scottish constitution that we will need as well - then that ex-football manager or pop star will have to be accused of treason and voted out by the parliament, by maybe a 2/3 or 3/4 majority of MSPs.Now if the state under this first president is so oppressive that normal lobbying of MSPs is not possible to try to get the president impeached and removed - because say the state police under the direction of the president are arresting protestors, protesting against his or her rule, or whatever, then it becomes a matter for the military to defend the democracy of Scotland by either arresting the president or assassinating the president, simply in order to defend the Scottish constitution and the rights of the Scots to live in a free country.So basically, being head of state - president or monarch - is not something most people should want to do because it is a death sentence if you mess up with the people's basic rights which you have been elected supposedly to defend.But we should travel hopefully into a Scottish republic and hope that after you have elected one or two really awful presidents and us then having to remove them, sooner or later, the Scots would elect someone who was really good as president - someone who could defend the rights of the people.So with a good president, then we Scots could get on with dealing with the actual problems that Scots have day to day - improve the NHS, education system, reduce crime, establish law and order, boost the economy, raise wages and so on. Basically it would be politics as usual only the difference would be even the clever Scots such as myself would be allowed to speak out and participate in political, social and economic life of the nation.Signature -Peter Dow's Scottish National Standard Bearer websitewebsite - Peter Dow's Scottish National Standard Bearer website.The For Freedom Forums -Re-direct to For Freedom Forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsby Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 We are clever and able Of course. You're obviously a highly intelligent and well-balanced individual, that's why you posted this on the internet Peter Dow is single and looking for a woman.The picture of you in your pants alone proves you don't have any mental problems, no sirree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Stu Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 The UK state is not really a "British" state - it is anti-British for much the same reason as the UK is an anti-Scottish state. Imposing Queen Elizabeth hurts the British people the same way as it hurts the Scottish people.Sure if my fellow Scots insist that the officers of the UK state should be allowed to arrest, to torture, and to imprison me, prevent me from working doing the job I want to do, the least I expect is money to live off. I want the UK state dead and gone as soon as possible. Do you really think Le Stu that I am satisfied with only what the UK dole or sick benefit gives me? You think that is what I aspire to? Not at all.Of course a Scottish republican state in Scotland should provide social security to those who need social security.Ideally of course, a competent state would not prevent people from turning up to university to complete their studies and then go on to work in their chosen profession.Ideally a Scottish republican government would insist the universities were properly run and actually allow people a fair opportunity to be students instead of kicking them out of university like a dog whenever the management feel like it.Peter Dow's Scottish National Standard Bearer websitewebsite - Peter Dow's Scottish National Standard Bearer website.The For Freedom Forums -Re-direct to For Freedom ForumsRight, so you're mad at the unis and believe we're a socialist nation with entitlements to degrees. Nope. Not true at all. We're a capitalist nation with a soft heart. So we'll keep you on the go. And The Queen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metarie Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Of course a Scottish republican state in Scotland should provide social security to those who need social security.Ideally of course, a competent state would not prevent people from turning up to university to complete their studies and then go on to work in their chosen profession.Is that you then? You need social security do you, or are you just too damned proud to accept a job which you do purely for the money. By all accounts you are perfectly able bodied and capable to do any number of jobs, even if they are just menial and minimum wage. You're a waste of resources and I have a real problem with your attitude that you contribute nothing at all to society or the economy and yet you think that you have the right to rubbish this country over and over again.And we all know the story about your Uni career and you need to get over it. Suck it up and move on. The fact that you refer to yourself as a 'local hero' just shows how out of touch you are. What have you ever done which could be considered heroic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Dow Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Right, so you're mad at the unis and believeHoi Le Stu! Why don't you leave ME to tell people what I believe and STOP trying to misrepresent my views?Here are links to pages on my website wherein I give MY views on the universities -Health, wealth and good services webpageforum topic - there is a lot more in the forum than in the web-page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calum Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 It's a wonder those kids went near your windows, what with you licking them on the other side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Hoi Le Stu! Why don't you leave ME to tell people what I believe and STOP trying to misrepresent my views?Here are links to pages on my website wherein I give MY views on the universities -Health, wealth and good services webpageforum topic - there is a lot more in the forum than in the web-pageHoi Dow! for someone who claims to be a debating jedi master you don't seem to be doing much debating. what's with that? even clouds better at this than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stichman Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Hoi Le Stu! Why don't you leave ME to tell people what I believe and STOP trying to misrepresent my views?Here are links to pages on my website wherein I give MY views on the universities -Health, wealth and good services webpageforum topic - there is a lot more in the forum than in the web-pageAll the pages on your website seem to consist of about five lines of pure conjecture and generalisation. You refuse to clarify any of your views when directly challenged. Do you even have the slightest clue what you're talking about? The vast majority of the population see you as a joke. You're not helping anyone. Now go and get a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 You and I wouldn't get on. I'm a royalist who's totally against Scottish independence, I fly a Union Jack and my national anthem is God Save The Queen. Fancy meeting up for a beer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Well the first order of business I presume will be to impeach and remove the bad president you lot have just elected as head of state.The important difference between electing an idiot head of state and electing an idiot MP or MSP is that all means necessary to remove a head of state are allowed in democratic theory.If a head of state, whether the head of state be a monarch or a president - is so incompetent or down-right bad and evil that he or she has got the police or the army going round locking up political opponents - turning the country into even more of a fascist police state than it is now, then you as a nation being threatened by your own head of state cannot afford to allow things to drift because lives are at stake.So say you lot, elect oh I don't know - a former famous football manager or pop star as head of state - because he or she is really popular with you - but actually he or she doesn't want to or know how to defend the human, civil and political rights of the Scots - he or she has got no idea how to defend the written Scottish constitution that we will need as well - then that ex-football manager or pop star will have to be accused of treason and voted out by the parliament, by maybe a 2/3 or 3/4 majority of MSPs.Now if the state under this first president is so oppressive that normal lobbying of MSPs is not possible to try to get the president impeached and removed - because say the state police under the direction of the president are arresting protestors, protesting against his or her rule, or whatever, then it becomes a matter for the military to defend the democracy of Scotland by either arresting the president or assassinating the president, simply in order to defend the Scottish constitution and the rights of the Scots to live in a free country.So basically, being head of state - president or monarch - is not something most people should want to do because it is a death sentence if you mess up with the people's basic rights which you have been elected supposedly to defend.But we should travel hopefully into a Scottish republic and hope that after you have elected one or two really awful presidents and us then having to remove them, sooner or later, the Scots would elect someone who was really good as president - someone who could defend the rights of the people.So with a good president, then we Scots could get on with dealing with the actual problems that Scots have day to day - improve the NHS, education system, reduce crime, establish law and order, boost the economy, raise wages and so on. Basically it would be politics as usual only the difference would be even the clever Scots such as myself would be allowed to speak out and participate in political, social and economic life of the nation.Signature -Peter Dow's Scottish National Standard Bearer websitewebsite - Peter Dow's Scottish National Standard Bearer website.The For Freedom Forums -Re-direct to For Freedom ForumsAmazing.So "we", which I assume is addressed at me and most other uses of this web-site, would automatically, as you so surely know, elect in a footballer or pop-star. Yes. Cos I'm a fucking huge fan of pop music and football. You know us all so well.And then "you", or as you referred to "us", the TRUE SCOTTISH REPUBLICANS OMG, would then have to assassinate them so that you could have your say in the running of Scotland.So basically, you want rid of the queen, so that you can get a head of state that you can assassinate and then be put in charge?I personally don't want someone that has their uniform's name tag made out of letters from Square One running Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humey Whilem Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 A relatively off topic question but I'm keen to find out:What kind of scientist would you have been Peter if the University had not kicked you out because they were affraid of you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 that is why they banned me from university - to stop me showing myself off as superior to many of the professors and lecturers. Rather than lose face to someone considered to be "just a student" - they banned me from university and destroyed my professional career as a scientist. For the university managers, it is more important not to lose face than it is important to help someone's career as a scientist or anything else.It is also why the local political parties such as Aberdeen SSP banned me from their meetings - again I can out debate most if not all other Aberdeen socialists, nationalists or whatever. The party managers put their own positions of authority in the party ahead of what is good for the cause - shame on them.The reason you were banned from university is because you couldn't handle the fact that your thesis was failed for being shit so you threw a tantrum, smelling a conspiracy where there wasn't one. The reason you were banned from SSP meetings is because you spoke a constant litany of confused shit and only went to them as part of your eternal, futile quest to get yourself a woman.Your immediate account deletion and suicide would be appreciated.Not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
french_disko Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 A relatively off topic question but I'm keen to find out:What kind of scientist would you have been Peter if the University had not kicked you out because they were affraid of you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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