Guest Bob Double Jack Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5164194.stmholy shit, football authorities deal with corruption! mon dieu! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam_b Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Be funny to se enext season without Juve and Lazio thats for sure!Actaully, fuck Lazio the Nazi bastards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Cheating bastards deserve all they get. AC will still do well despite starting the season -15.But Inter shall reign supreme! Apparantley they are lining up a move for Trezuget, Ibrahimavic or Toni. They will sign only one but whoever it is will form a deadly partnership with the Emperor and rip up Serie A! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qzdiablo Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 "too right, the biggest transfer market in the world is going to open. italy winning the world cup, cm'on think about it!!" - hookyikes, that's BONKERS - me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Well done to them for having the balls to do relegate them.Cheating pricks!Imagine if it was Scotland. Would they do the same for the Old Firm?? Highly debatable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untitled Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 all of the team presidants are saying they are going to appeal the decision because they feel they are rediculas and over the top.me personally feel its a just resultcheating by fixing matches is the worst thing u can do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Actually' date=' fuck Lazio the Nazi bastards [/quote']That's so ill informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 I think they should have relegated all four. I'm sure there's a lot of people out there wondering why it was Berlusconi's team that avoided relegation, and I think that setting the minimum punishment for match fixing as relegation is much more of a deterrent than -15 points and no europe for a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 what actually happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 what actually happened?Match fixing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 christ on a bikecycke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Imagine if it was Scotland. Would they do the same for the Old Firm?? Highly debatable!Technically it could happen, with the new rules concerning sectarian singing. Can't be bothered looking for the regulations and punishments, but they are out there somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Double Jack Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 I think they should have relegated all four. I'm sure there's a lot of people out there wondering why it was Berlusconi's team that avoided relegation' date=' and I think that setting the minimum punishment for match fixing as relegation is much more of a deterrent than -15 points and no europe for a season.[/quote']ian, i've never heard you speaking sense before! (apart from when you tell morgan to turn down at soundchecks) :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 dont juve have something like a 30 point deduction an all meaning they will prob not get promoted this season an all. there's no excuse they were caught red handed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Punishments:Juventus: * Relegated to Serie B * 30-point deduction for next season * Stripped of 2005 and 2006 titles * Out of 2006-07 Champions League * Five-year ban for ex-general manager Luciano Moggi * Five-year ban for ex-chief executive Antonio GiraudoAC Milan: * Deducted 15 points next season * Out of 2006-07 Champions League * One-year ban for vice-president Adriano Galliani * Club official Leonardo Meani banned for three years and six monthsFiorentina: * Relegated to Serie B * 12-point deduction next season * Out of 2006-07 Champions League * President Andrea Della Valle banned for three years and six months * Four-year ban for honorary president Diego Della ValleLazio: * Relegated to Serie B * Out of 2006-07 Uefa Cup * 7-point deduction next season * Three-year ban for president Claudio LotitoThe following punishments were given to individuals: * Luciano Moggi: 50,000 fine and 5 year ban from football, with a further recommendation to the FIGC President that he be banned for life from membership of the FIGC at any level. * Antonio Giraudo: 20,000 fine and 5 year ban from football, with a further recommendation to the FIGC President that he be banned for life from membership of the FIGC at any level. * Adriano Galliani: 1 year ban from football. * Leonardo Meani: 3.5 year ban from football. * Andrea Della Valle: 20,000 fine and 3.5 year ban from football. * Diego Della Valle: 30,000 fine and 4 year ban from football. * Claudio Lotito: 10,000 fine and 3.5 year ban from football. * Franco Carraro: 4.5 year ban from football. * Innocenzo Mazzini: 5 year ban from football. * Tullio Lanese: 2.5 year ban from football. * Pierluigi Pairetto: 2.5 year ban from football. * Gennaro Mazzei: 1 year ban from football. * Pietro Ingargiola: Given a warning. * Massimo De Santis: 4.5 year ban from football. * Paolo Dondarini: 3.5 year ban from football. * Fabrizio Babini: 1 year ban from football. * Gianluca Paparesta: 3 month ban from football. * Claudio Puglisi: 1 year ban from football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 ian' date=' i've never heard you speaking sense before! (apart from when you tell morgan to turn down at soundchecks) :D[/quote'] I could save a bit of time and just tell him when he arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mike Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Missing the Champions league is gonna be a massive blow for all clubs involved. Massive loss of revenue and respect. Any word on how Fifa plan to replace the 3 teams that should have been there? I'm assuming they'll need to make up the numbers in order for the tournament to work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Cheating bastards deserve all they get. AC will still do well despite starting the season -15.But Inter shall reign supreme! Apparantley they are lining up a move for Trezuget' date=' Ibrahimavic or Toni. They will sign only one but whoever it is will form a deadly partnership with the Emperor and rip up Serie A![/quote']Trezuget sucked at the World Cup and not just because his Penalty hit the cross bar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Missing the Champions league is gonna be a massive blow for all clubs involved. Massive loss of revenue and respect. Any word on how Fifa plan to replace the 3 teams that should have been there? I'm assuming they'll need to make up the numbers in order for the tournament to work...They should (but I don't think it's been confirmed yet) just nominate the next best teams in Serie A to go into the Champions League. It's all dependent on the appeal though - but I reckon it's a sure fire bet that they won't be playing in Europe this season.In my opinion though, all four teams should be starting from -30 points next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 dont juve have something like a 30 point deduction an all meaning they will prob not get promoted this season an all. there's no excuse they were caught red handed....Looking at the Serie B table last season, Juve will need (out of 42 games, starting from -30) 76 points to avoid a straight relegation and 78 points to avoid playing in the relegation play off with Seria C. They'd need 96 points to get into the promotion plays offs, and 108 points to secure automatic promotion. The winner of Serie B last season (Atalanta) got 81 points.Potentially, they can get 126 points over the course of the season - so in real numbers, they need 32 wins to secure promotion next season.When you look at these figures, it seems that the punishments just aren't harsh enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Double Jack Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 I could save a bit of time and just tell him when he arrives. :laughing: :laughing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mike Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 They should (but I don't think it's been confirmed yet) just nominate the next best teams in Serie A to go into the Champions League. It's all dependent on the appeal though - but I reckon it's a sure fire bet that they won't be playing in Europe this season.In my opinion though' date=' all four teams should be starting from -30 points next season.[/quote']see that's what I thought but then...I thought some more and realised that the next best teams are already in the Uefa cup etc. does that mean that they have to re-jig the line ups for all the european competitions this year? I say just leave things as they stand and let more SPL teams into the champions league....or Gretna:up: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 The punishments were just as expected really, except maybe the minus 30 points for Juve was a little more than I thought. The punishments have to be accpeted although it is unfortunate that the players and fans have to be punished as well when they have been let down by some of the directors. There really isn't a case for any of the teams to be more severely punished as there really isn't that much evidence against Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina. Btw there is no evidence of direct match fixing and that is not what they have been charged with.Milan do ok next season and should get a champions league spot. Juventus will have the strongest team in serie B next season so they wont be relegated like some people have said and there is a chance of a play-off spot although that would be a great achievement.I don't think there will be quite as big as selling spree as people have said and I really don't think many players will be coming over to England. I certainly hope they stay in Italy. A lot of the Juve players that go would have been very likely to leave anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 I don't think there will be quite as big as selling spree as people have said and I really don't think many players will be coming over to England. I certainly hope they stay in Italy. A lot of the Juve players that go would have been very likely to leave anyway.I certainly don't think there will be anyone leaving AC Milan. I think a fair amount of Juve players will leave and i reckon the big guns like Luca Toni from Fiorentina will go too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoAUBL Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 see that's what I thought but then...I thought some more and realised that the next best teams are already in the Uefa cup etc. does that mean that they have to re-jig the line ups for all the european competitions this year? I say just leave things as they stand and let more SPL teams into the champions league....or Gretna:up:yeahthats probably the casethey'll just spread out some extra allocations to other leagues i reckon..mon the Gretna! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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