-matthEw- Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 personally i guess it's just because i just don't get why people worship him' date=' let's look at the evidence:no technical playing ability needed for any of his songs - therefore it's not because he's a great guitar playernothing to admire about his character - junkie scumbag who ripped off his best mate and bandmember forcing a successful (though god knows why) band to part ways only to spawn 2/3 watered down offshoots that also are fucking awful.only thing in which to see any good might be in his lyrics, which could just as easily be consigned to poetry and much easier ignored.[/quote']yup cos you can really decide what music you like through evidence with a formulaic structures.the same could be said about dozens of punk bands as far as technical ability goes and really any one with half a brain should realise that it counts for little.i just dont getwhy when someone says they like the MUSIC of the Libertines of babyshambles, their reasons for liking them have to be called into disrepute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluesxman Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 I saw the NME heroes list the other week and they actually questioned strongly whether he had enough relevance anymore to warrant second place due to being more famous for being in court to answer drugs charges than anything else, but I think they had a lot to do with his maintaining some kind of hero status following The Libertines in the first place. I find the fact that young kids idolise this guy seriously frightening.As far as his music goes, personally I quite liked some of The Libertines songs, more so the first album, I kind of liked that whole ramshackle quality it had. The song 'For Lovers' he did with Wolfman I thought was lovely. The Babyshambles stuff I've heard is utter trash. I have no idea at all why people continue to support his lifestyle by supplying him with money via ticket sales and buying his 'music'.The difference with Cobain was that they were producing some of their best work up till he died. I was a huge fan and although I knew he had troubles, the extent only became apparent after he died. He didn't seem to glorify his drug use in the same way that skank does either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 hes a fucking idiot and a complete junkie, yes that you cant argue with. However ive never felt more strongly for a band than the libertines and up the bracket was a hugely important album for me, i didnt listen to it coz the nme said so (if anyone can remember when it was released it got 7/10 i think and the nme never even talked about the libertines). He writes great lyrics and yes he is a great poet (theres no rules to say that poets cannot start a band tho). As for this incident and any other incident hes been doing lately it is completely unacceptable. However when he pulls himself together he is great live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 If he doesn't show on Monday' date=' I'll be very annoyed. Well, there is the possibility he will be in prison, you never know with Doherty.[/quote']Sadly I don't think he'll be in prison, he has somehow managed to dodge that bullet. Its where he belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.Pel Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 That camera crew will have AIDS, and I don't have the balls to comment about Doherty on this website.But, I hope to fuck he doesn't turn up to the gig because I'm not going. Dinnae want to miss oot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DustyDeviada Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 The song 'For Lovers' he did with Wolfman I thought was lovely. Agreed, a great track, the only good thing I have heard that he has been involved with.Although I don't tend to use the word "lovely". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Cadet Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 That camera crew will have AIDS Whatever gave you that idea? You don't seriously believe that every junkie has AIDS do you? Anyway, I think you mean HIV (the virus that leads to AIDS) otherwise he would be too ill to get out of bed, let alone get himself a fix.I must be the only person on this forum who doesn't regularly slag folk off, but that was the most niave comment I have ever seen ?( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest five years Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 yup cos you can really decide what music you like through evidence with a formulaic structures.the same could be said about dozens of punk bands as far as technical ability goes and really any one with half a brain should realise that it counts for little.i just dont get why when someone says they like the MUSIC of the Libertines of babyshambles' date=' their reasons for liking them have to be called into disrepute.[/quote']quite simply we're never going to agree on this. you may think punk bands are shit, but at least they're "famous" (depends on your interpretation of fame) for their music or standing up for their beliefs i.e. something credible.as someone mentioned, the idea of young and impressionable people idolising doherty is scary.i guess apart from not liking their music, it's the fact that they're really famous for every reason apart from their music: i.e. their illegal antics and the fact he's in more tabloids than music mags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonie Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 I must be the only person on this forum who doesn't regularly slag folk offwhere's the fun in that? /x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Cadet Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 where's the fun in that? /xThis site is just a welcome distraction from work for me, and I don't need to put others down to make myself feel better about myself but If making other people unhappy makes you feel better - you carry on! I'm sure the vast majority of the people using this site are emotionally strong enough to cope with it and the ones who arent - fuck them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonie Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 no doubt i don't always feel the need to put people down, but sometimes their words call out the vigilante justice side of me which just can't be stopped! /x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Cadet Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 no doubt i don't always feel the need to put people down' date=' but sometimes their words call out the vigilante justice side of me which just can't be stopped! /x[/quote']Typical bloke - no self control! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 so is bono, chris martin, madonna, charlotte church Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest five years Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 so is bono' date=' chris martin, madonna, charlotte church[/quote']they all made their name by their music first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Mr Docherty is an absolute legend ........ I have based my whole teenage life around his.Now how get this syringe out of my dads bellend?*Calums thoughts provided by NME magazine* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonie Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Typical bloke - no self control!typical bloke - awesome /x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 they all made their name by their music firstu seriously trying to say that pete was famous for taking drugs before being the lead singer of the libertines? the libertines were famous enough before anyone knew anything about pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseyBoi Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 i agree the guy is way offfff his head and the media need to stop making him so public as he is a bloody bad influence on the younger generation...If anyone whos anyone on these boards truelly admitted to themselfs how 'they' would act if they were loaded talented and in the public eye..Im sure out of us all we would have a few wallys with to much power.....I for one would be an arrogant fanny likely but id never be a junky never mind a public junky...On a side note he was NOT injecting that unconciuos girl btw she is a known junky and was in a state of slump when he was removing the needle.....(slump aparently is what happens the second the herion takes effect it kind of knocks em bandy)Not that im sticking up for him like......In 5 years he will be a face on a T-shirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.Pel Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Whatever gave you that idea? You don't seriously believe that every junkie has AIDS do you? Anyway' date=' I think you mean HIV (the virus that leads to AIDS) otherwise he would be too ill to get out of bed, let alone get himself a fix.I must be the only person on this forum who doesn't regularly slag folk off, but that was the most niave comment I have ever seen ?([/quote']No, I don't. I use the term loosely and it wasn't supposed to offend. Aplogies etc.Also: In 5 years he will be a face on a T-shirtHe already is love: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Whatever gave you that idea? You don't seriously believe that every junkie has AIDS do you? Anyway' date=' I think you mean HIV (the virus that leads to AIDS) otherwise he would be too ill to get out of bed, let alone get himself a fix.[/quote']I dont think you know what your talking about....Full blown aids does not confine you to bed, its a disease that destroys your imune system, if you can avoid disease you can live a fairly normal life..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 I dont think you know what your talking about....Full blown aids does not confine you to bed' date=' its a disease that destroys your imune system, if you can avoid disease you can live a fairly normal life.....[/quote']But if you pretty much get any shitey disease yr proper fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 But if you pretty much get any shitey disease yr proper fucked.I'm sure I read somewhere that the common cold kills a lot of people suffering from AIDS..which must suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
666 Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 "Oh Drew! What` the matter with you? You didn`t dig the blood..."i think that`s pretty amusing.though drew was understandably embarrassed.but really, it would have been the funniest thing if he missed the camera screen and got a member of the crew instead how long you reckon he`s going to stay in babyshambles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framheim Posted May 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 "Oh Drew! What` the matter with you? You didn`t dig the blood..."i think that`s pretty amusing.though drew was understandably embarrassed.but really' date=' it would have been the funniest thing if he missed the camera screen and got a member of the crew instead how long you reckon he`s going to stay in babyshambles?[/quote']?i can't decide if you're joking or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 how long you reckon he`s going to stay in babyshambles?I doubt that Pete Doherty will be thrown out of his own band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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