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I'm so gutted we can't play this, these boys are immense.

I'm just about to leave for this. If you're at a loose end tonight, come on down and have a chat. I'll buy you a pint. And by that I mean my employed brother will buy you a pint on my behalf. What a nice guy.

The Condiments were pretty good, played with them a few times back in the Foyermusic days. I always thought they were better than they thought they were. Yeah, please do come down, this will be good.

I dunno if Sandi Thom would be much more successful as a woman, to be honest.

This'll be our last gig until our EP is finally launched after the summer! Hurrah! Sixpeopleaway were great last time round, this should be qualitay.

The people next door who started having a party at 9am this morning. What. I awoke to the gentle strains of 'Bonkers' floating through the paper-thin wall. Belissimo.

Caley at home is our first game of the season. Gulp.

That poster is ace

Nice one boys. I take it from the way you worded it that this is a fresh record, not a re-release of your current one?

Could be. It's looking extremely volatile just now. I see that when Obama was asked about the situation, he wisely said he didn't want to 'meddle' in Iranian politics. Can you imagine what Bush would have said?

EXACTLY! You just said it without taking cheap shots left, right and centre. It's patently a badly worded sentence, there obviously aren't hundreds of posters in separate individual locations in the town centre. I think you know what I meant. As for the second part, there ARE Moshulu posters in One-Up! And details of tickets they are selling for forthcoming events! Yeah, but Tunnels especially is choc-full of gigs run by outside promoters. In effect, there are loads of Tunnels promoters at any given point, each advertising their own gigs. So in that respect, promotion is a lot more manageable for them, no? So we agree on this I would say IMP put on brilliant, but fairly niche, 'trendy' gigs that go down very well and are well suited to this site. This is probably the ideal place for them to advertise. Moshulu put on more 'mainstream' acts, so they have to use other methods to reach the unwashed masses. Like Facebook. And postering at uni. Haha, fair enough! Although your posts did come across as more than a little aggresive...

See, why couldn't you have posted that in the first place, instead of calling people morons and telling people they can't do their jobs? I said there are hundreds at uni, which there are. There are also a healthy amount around town; about as many as anybody else puts up. It's a bit much to assume that because you can't see any in Bruce Millars, that must mean there are hardly any anywhere. Also, I'd say that postering is probably a harder job for Moshulu compared with some other prmoters because of the sheer number of gigs on. Maybe a monthly listings poster like The Tunnels have would be a good idea. I agree. So does Steven Milne it would appear, which is probably why he apologised for forgetting to put one up. As he said, you can only do so many things at once so I'm sure that occasionally things slip through the net. The truth is that the vast majority of Moshulu shows are publicised on this website. I know, I didn't say it was. Yet it is interesting that you picked up on those genres; clearly they are the most popular around here. I guess what I mean is that there is more than a slight whiff of musical snobbery about some gigs that are anounced here, which would discourage people from posting about similar gigs in the future. We've all done it. I would say that this site is definetely pretty niche in that it's in effect a bit of a closed community and can be pretty hostile. This is probably true of the Aberdeen music 'scene' in general, and probably why we don't do so well in the grand scheme of things. Umm, I'd disagree with this too. Everyone else was being pretty measured; I don't really understand why you totally exploded in a blazing storm of rage earlier in the thread. We're all on the same side, after all.

I would agree that a lot of the time there is barely any point in putting up a post for gigs on here. Let's be honest, there is a limited number of regular users on this site, and most of us are in bands. Ab-Mus doesn't represent a cross-section of the Aberdeen population, in fact it represents a very specific group of people. It's usually fairly predictable which gigs are going to go down well with the regular users and which aren't. It's also true that there's a good amount of back-slapping going on, whilst new users are often alienated by arsehole-ish posts totally taking the piss, be it their spelling, their views, whatever. This thread is a good example of such behaviour; the few good points that have been made have been tempered by offensive and patronising posts. A few people really ought to grow up. Don't get me wrong, this is a great site; it's a good laugh, good for information, good for finding out about gigs and good for a host of other reasons. But I absolutely agree with Steven that there is a definite clique of people and a lot of gig posts are totally ignored. Anyway, my point is that a massive chunk of the gig-going public in Aberdeen don't use it, so I agree that it should hardly be the first port of call when it comes to promotion. There a hundreds of Moshulu posters up at the uni campus and at various points around town. The Moshulu website is a bit pish, but it has all the gigs up on it, doesn't it? I agree that it is the promoter's responsibility to go out and promote things, but at some point there has to be a willingness for the potential gig-goer to make at least a tiny bit of effort to find out about future dates. It's a bit much to complain, then say "Well, I don't go into town, go into Moshulu, check the website, pick up any of the plethora of free music press that litter shops all over the city and I hate being told of gigs by being messaged on Facebook, so... YOU'RE A SHITE PROMOTER!" Get a haud. Also, as an aside, if anyone thinks Ross from AGP isn't doing his job properly then they are either total ignorant or certifiably mental. ...phew.

This is more than a bit aged, but as far as these tasteless things go it's a winner. What's the difference between Madeleine McCann and Madeleine McCann jokes? The jokes will get old.

Ah, didn't spot that requirement. Yeah I think you're right. Freshman make some pretty good guitars and you can pick up a nice one for under 200. Could be a shout.

Pretty much anything by Paul Simon. Graceland is probably the best pop album of all time.

You should buy yourself a Yamaha F310. Big, loud, reliable and robust. You can get one for well under 100 too.

Yeah, Crush's come in 10, 15 and 30 Watt models. There's also the Micro Crush which is a teeny wee thing. Presumably for 30 it's either the Micro or the 10W. If it's the 10 watt one then I'll definetely take it. I shall PM you my number so you can pass it on or whatever.

Could be just up my street. Any ideas what size it is?

I don't get time zones. Who invented time zones? And when? I mean, I get that the sun sets at different times depending on where you are. But why do we have to have different times for that? Why can't it just be dark in the morning in one place, and light in the morning on the other side of the world? Different light levels but same time? Wouldn't that be a lot easier for everyone. I don't understand how something can happen in the day in another part of the world, but that can effectively be yesterday for us. It's happening now, but it also happened yesterday. Weird.

Wow, good call. That's a true mystery.

Nice wan. Debutant is actually brilliant; I quite like the recordings, but live the songs are just immense. I'm going to start a Phil Phanclub (See what I did? SEE WHAT I DID?!)

Nice wan.

I think you have to hold yourself up to be able to breathe, because your lungs and that are getting pushed against your chest. As you get weaker this becomes harder and more painful because you're essentially putting all your weight on your impaled limbs. So you suffocate. I think.

I'm after an extremely cheap and cheerful practice amp, just to tinker about with in Glasgow until I can afford something decent. Hauling amps up and down the road is getting too much.