now this is getting back to the age old arguement of rock stars vs musicians. the crue were rock stars and i have no problem admitting that a lot of their fame is from their actions and attitude, but then again, whose isn't? but del, you're labelling the crue as being a bunch of washed up has beens still sporting the same look they had in the 80s which is untrue. the hair is shorter, the spandex is gone and like i've said before, at least nikki and tommy look really good now. they're reminiscent of the backyard babies, or, well, my boyfriend. in any case, they're a fucking great band who i can't wait to see live, especially given that i was about 8 the first time round and thus far too young to go to one of their shows. and i liked them well before i liked the darkness.