pogofish Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 that comment made me laugh out loud. Its a valid point tho. Those birds are natures opportunists & have adapted to living of the stuff we carelessly chuck about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Im still in favour of a guy with a 12 bore shotgun blowing the shit out of them. It could be his permanent job - he would be given the freedom of the city to hunt the little bastards. Either that or if every bakery in town puts waaaaaaay to much bicarbonate of soda in their goods then the pilaging devils will learn their lesson soon enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 thats like saying "apart from when ti comes to niggers and gooks' date=' I'm totally anti-racist"So no you're not, you're just a sick fuck.[/quote']Bollocks! As I said - form my misspent youth! I'm not likley to be doing such things today.I'm not going to get worked-up over anyone who does tho & anyway, calcium carbide is a far better way of dispatching them - with much faster & bigger bang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Im still in favour of a guy with a 12 bore shotgun blowing the shit out of them. It could be his permanent job - he would be given the freedom of the city to hunt the little bastards. Either that or if every bakery in town puts waaaaaaay to much bicarbonate of soda in their goods then the pilaging devils will learn their lesson soon enough...aye, but arent you the student that got annoyed cos people in Tilly or Tory or whatever have expensive mobile phones and Sky Digital?And pogofish, its not bollocks....you're a sick fuck, and your statement about being environmentalist or wildlife orienteated or whatever was utter fucking shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 aye' date=' but arent you the student that got annoyed cos people in Tilly or Tory or whatever have expensive mobile phones and Sky Digital?QUOTE']yes i am. It doesn't mean i like seagulls though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 aye' date=' but arent you the student that got annoyed cos people in Tilly or Tory or whatever have expensive mobile phones and Sky Digital?[/quote']yes i am. It doesn't mean i like seagulls though.i never said it does. it just reminds everyone that you're a twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 you're a sick fuck' date=' and your statement about being environmentalist or wildlife orienteated or whatever was utter fucking shite.[/quote']Really, I'm more concerned about a number more specifically adapted species that are now threatened/treated as food by the influx of seagulls to areas/habitats that traditionally never saw them. Gulls are too adaptable & agressive by comparison & only a few species are threatned, so I won't be too worried by the various methods of controlling them. Environmentalism isn't an all-cuddly-wuddly-fluffy kinda biz you know. Sometimes we have to consider unpleasant solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Either that or if every bakery in town puts waaaaaaay to much bicarbonate of soda in their goods then the pilaging devils will learn their lesson soon enough...That would make an attack of the munchies a truly scary experience for us tho! Burrrrrrrp! 8o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Just because something is a scavenger does not make it evil. Scavengers are natures way of keeping the place clean and making sure that nothing goes to waste.At least the seagull is fending for itself, unlike the parasites that live off the state, and there are far more of those in Aberdeen than there are seagulls.Want to sort out the eco-system, and weed out the unworthy then start with filth of the human variety and work your way backwards... that would solve a lot of problems at source.And if a particular species does require culling, then it's best taken care of through the offical channels rather than a bunch of sick, cowardly, wimpish, bedroom bound, asswipes, psychosexual sadists getting hard ons from perpetrating gross acts of cruelty on creatures much smaller and weaker than them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake Wifebeater Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Last year, while waiting for a bus, I saw a woman coming out of McDonald's at about half 8 in the morning. A seagull swooped down and snatched her burger/bun thing before she'd even had a chance to unwrap it. She was unharmed, but the look on her face still makes me yak to this very day. I couldn't help thinking it served her right for giving money to McDonald's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinzHines Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Just for everyone using the term loosely, seagulls aren't vermin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 i never said it does. it just reminds everyone that you're a twat.You're ok though, seagulls won't touch you 'cause you fucking stink Even seagulls have standards you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseyBoi Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Name one person that has been killed by a seagull. Shouldn't be too hard to find what with Google and all?Wilfred Robyhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2097681.stmAnd i quote A pensioner has died after being attacked by seagulls in his garden. As the terror of overprotective gulls returns all round the UK' date=' people are asking what can be done about them. [/i'] And if for a bird not being vermin if you google Are seagulls vermin its pretty amazing how many hits you get saying DAMN RIGHT THEY ARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinzHines Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 If you google Are seagulls vermin its pretty amazing how many hits you get saying DAMN RIGHT THEY AREYeah, but they aren't classed as vermin. Therefore, they aren't vermin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Laura@TMB Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Wilfred Robyhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2097681.stmAnd i quote A pensioner has died after being attacked by seagulls in his garden. As the terror of overprotective gulls returns all round the UK' date=' people are asking what can be done about them. [/i'] And if for a bird not being vermin if you google Are seagulls vermin its pretty amazing how many hits you get saying DAMN RIGHT THEY AREVermin - no. Opportunist species - yes! And what's so bad about that? We've over-fished our coastal waters resulting in a decline in their diet (sand eels etc) and as the volume of discards (fish thrown over the side of fishing boats) decline, these guys have opted for a less stressful life onshore scavanging the waste strewn about by the human population. To be honest, I don't fuckin blame them... being at sea in a force 9 gale trying to grab a few fish heads or being in Union Street at 5am on a Sunday morning leisurely tucking into a Doner kebab with a few chips on the side. Take a look at the amount of food and food container waste on the street next time you're in the city centre on a weekend night - it's a fucking disgrace! There's been a significant decline in the numbers of some of our seabird species over the past few decades... the Herring Gull however has adapted to change and, much to the disgust of many of us humans, is not only surviving, but managing to increase it's numbers substantially.I've lived on or nearby the coast all my life. Have had seagulls nesting on my house roof, my office roof, my business roof and walk past heaps of them every day on my way to and from work. Yes, I've been dive-bombed loads of time, but so what?? I'm a human, the Herring Gull is a bird - no big deal in my book!!Have I just been lucky because I don't usually have a fish supper or kebab trailing from my gob en route? Who cares. Yes, the breeding population is increasing in our area, and if our generally inept city Council can find a humane and successful means of controlling the population then I see no problem with it. To all you sick fucks who've posted "ha ha funny ha ha" intentions of cruelty to these birds... hang your f'ing heads in shame! Tell you what, print out your replies, keep them and show them to your kids and grandkids... they'll be really proud of you I'm sure. If the Herring Gulls inherit the planet, then good luck to them. The place will be a lot fucking cleaner, that's for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Yeah' date=' but they aren't classed as vermin. Therefore, they aren't vermin.[/quote']It is perfectly possible for a non vermin species in one area to be considered vermin in a place where they have no natural controls & are proving detrimental to the ecology of another area - Hedgehogs in the Western Isles & feral cats in parts of Australia are just two examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Vermin - no. Opportunist species - yes! And what's so bad about that? We've over-fished our coastal waters resulting in a decline in their diet (sand eels etc) and as the volume of discards (fish thrown over the side of fishing boats) decline' date=' these guys have opted for a less stressful life onshore scavanging the waste strewn about by the human population. There's been a significant decline in the numbers of some of our seabird species over the past few decades... and if our generally inept city Council can find a humane and successful means of controlling the population then I see no problem with it. To all you sick fucks who've posted "ha ha funny ha ha" intentions of cruelty to these birds... hang your f'ing heads in shame! [/quote']Seabirds occupy a strange position in the food chain, in some circumstances they can be considered opportunists/scavengers whilst in others, particularly our inland/upland areas they can become a high in the food-chain predator & their relative invulnaribility/considerable adaptability compared to other species can easilly lead them to go out of control. Last year, I watched four gulls take-out an Osprey nest & its chicks, at other times I've seen them decimate the roosts of nesting Oystercatchers & Curlew - I don't doubt that plenty of other threatened native species, already sufering from other factors are being pushed to the limits by seabirds.The sand-eel population recovered big-time some years back - ahead of & far in excess of all expations. Fish are like that, they breed prodidgiously & if the Exec ever get their act together, any limitations on fishing won't be as bad or for as ling as the fish-lobby would have us believe.I agree, human wastefullness/stupidity is a big part of the problemThe most threatened seabirds are not the species we are talking about here - again they tend to be the more specialised feeders who stick to their more damaged traditional habitats. Are you aware of the methods any official cull might include? For both disposing of the birds & to deter roosting? Few if any of them might be considered humane or distress free. At least the method I suggested does not take the bird out of its natural behaviour pattern & invariably ensures it is dead when it hits the ground. Better by far than say, being tranxed, picked-up with a neck-snare (which is a notoriously innefficent way of killing) then bagged-up with several hundred/thousand other birds then driven, maybe many miles to be chucked in an incinerator/CO2 chamber to suffocate, then landfilled. Or having their legs burned down to stumps due to the chemicals sprayed on the roost site - which of course can render it a hazzard to other species for a considerable time & possibly damage the place in all sorts of other ways. Never ming that the record of official culls tends to be poor - look at the pointless banjax that was the Western Isles Hedgehog cull or the complete & utter tokenisitc mess that the Red Deer Comission got into with its last cull.Lastly, they are shitehawks & have been a malicious pest for years. Who really cares about them other than you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Just because something is a scavenger does not make it evil. Scavengers are natures way of keeping the place clean and making sure that nothing goes to waste.At least the seagull is fending for itself' date=' unlike the parasites that live off the state, and there are far more of those in Aberdeen than there are seagulls.Want to sort out the eco-system, and weed out the unworthy then start with filth of the human variety and work your way backwards... that would solve a lot of problems at source.And if a particular species does require culling, then it's best taken care of through the offical channels rather than a bunch of sick, cowardly, wimpish, bedroom bound, asswipes, psychosexual sadists getting hard ons from perpetrating gross acts of cruelty on creatures much smaller and weaker than them.[/quote']I really hope you are just trolling?If not, you are demonstrating a kind of sickness way beyond anything you are trying to infer about anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Why exactly? Humans are WAY more detrimental to every single part of the environment than any "airborne vermin"Someone getting their chips pecked on has nothing on deforestation, nuclear testing and fucking smackies leaving needles in play-parks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Why exactly? Humans are WAY more detrimental to every single part of the environment than any "airborne vermin"Someone getting their chips pecked on has nothing on deforestation' date=' nuclear testing and fucking smackies leaving needles in play-parks.[/quote']Either way, that is no justification for the "get rid of the human vermin" type argument & is not particularly relavent to this thread anyway.You know where that puts you.Maybe you should go & check-out the damage that uncontrolled seabirds can do to an ecosystem too, BTW. Try googling guano isles for a start. (OK, I know we didn't do much better either when we mined it)http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/photographyinbooks/PhotoImages/Old/mid/1784a13(2).jpgYes, that is a mountain of bird-shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I got attacked today by a seagull. I had just finished my weekend job at Sainsburys when I was walking through Garthdee and saw it flying low directly towards my face' date=' so I ducked. It circled me, screeching and squacking as it went, came back round and dived at my head again, trying to peck as it attacked. I found myself running from this bird as it attacked me for the seventh time in a row, trying to shite on me and hit me head with its feet.I thought it maybe had something against Sainsburys uniforms, then I realised it must have been protecting its young or something.Anyway, I'm going back to the spot where it attacked me tomorrow with equipt with an umbrella and a pellet gun to kill all its babies. The pecky shites!Has this happened to anyone else? It's really weird.[/quote']who are you?i work at the mighty sainsburys too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Either way' date=' that is [b']no justification for the "get rid of the human vermin" type argument & is not particularly relavent to this thread anyway.You know where that puts you.Maybe you should go & check-out the damage that uncontrolled seabirds can do to an ecosystem too, BTW. Try googling guano isles for a start. (OK, I know we didn't do much better either when we mined it)http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/photographyinbooks/PhotoImages/Old/mid/1784a13(2).jpgYes, that is a mountain of bird-shit.It doesn't completely justify, but if we're killing off things because of the effect they have on the environement, then surely we should start with the worst culprits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogofish Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Our capacity to exploit & destroy & learn, also gives us a greater adaptability & capacity to change our behaviour in a way that other species can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NULL Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 They should remove protection from seagulls. If they do that then rabbit populations will go up and I can eat seagull aswell as rabbitRabbit and Seagulls are the answer to poverty and starving orphans in Aberdeen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 also gives us a greater adaptability & capacity to change our behaviour in a way that other species can't.maybe so. but do any of us it? do we fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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