Bonesaw Bazz Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 So i know you ain't meant to play a bass through a guitar amp. BUT what about a guitar through a bass amp?I have a huge Trace Elliot Stack 600w head 2 cabs. Cost me a penny or 2. Now, i have started playing guitar in a band that looks like touring a fair bit. Would rather spare myself the expence of buying a guitar amp if my bass amp (or half of) would do just as good a job.Is this possible?Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 I used to do it all the time...sounds beefy as fuck, be prepared for it to sound different to a normal, but obviously bass amps are built to withstand a much hotter signal/lower frequency than a guitar will ever produce, so copes like a breeze with a guitar. I know the guy from Pig Destroyer used to drive a bass amp with his guitar instead for that full on sound... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Rocker Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 I've heard of a few heavy bands that downtune doing this. It does sound different, but it may be a sound that you like. Don't think you'll do the amp or speakers any damage as bass amps can handle the high frequencies ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 So i know you ain't meant to play a bass through a guitar amp. BUT what about a guitar through a bass amp?I have a huge Trace Elliot Stack 600w head 2 cabs. Cost me a penny or 2. Now' date=' i have started playing guitar in a band that looks like touring a fair bit. Would rather spare myself the expence of buying a guitar amp if my bass amp (or half of) would do just as good a job.Is this possible?Cheers[/quote']It'll work fine, there should be no problem dialing in enough top end with a trace amp, the only thing I would do is stick an overdrive pedal in the system to drive the pre amp a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartmaxwell Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 sounds fucking ace when you are riffing, bit pants when using th ehigh notesitll be grand for filthpact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonesaw Bazz Posted March 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 cheers! I was pretty sure that The dead guy from Nasum used a trace bass amp for his guitar. Dunno how i'm gonna try it out for sound but i'll come up with something.Overdrive pedal huh? What exactly do they do? I'm a Metal bassist! haha Clean and distortion are my sounds. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Rocker Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 What's the specs of your Trace stack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonesaw Bazz Posted March 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 600w head. 4 x 10" cab and 1 x 18" cab. The head says 600w but it has 2 outputs. Obviously if i only use 1 cab i'm getting half the power. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 600w head. 4 x 10" cab and 1 x 18" cab. The head says 600w but it has 2 outputs. Obviously if i only use 1 cab i'm getting half the power. Right?No, what are the cabs rated at, what you'll find is the amp will deliver 600 watts into 4ohms (sound ian will probably correct me on that) so if you check the wattage and ohms of the cabs and work it out from there.Oh and are you sure about 1x18? isnt it a 1x15? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 It should sound really heavy especially if you are planning to tune the guitar down quite a bit:up: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonesaw Bazz Posted March 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 No' date=' what are the cabs rated at, what you'll find is the amp will deliver 600 watts into 4ohms (sound ian will probably correct me on that) so if you check the wattage and ohms of the cabs and work it out from there.Oh and are you sure about 1x18? isnt it a 1x15?[/quote']Right. Just checked the cabs over and they are rated at 300w (8 ohms) each. 4 x 10" & 1 x 18" i got the measuring tape out and it is 18. don't have the head here to check over but it's the AH600.Tuned to drop D so not too low. When i use this live etc i will only be using one cab (easier to transport). I'm assuming the 4 x 10" would be the better option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 No' date=' what are the cabs rated at, what you'll find is the amp will deliver 600 watts into 4ohms (sound ian will probably correct me on that) so if you check the wattage and ohms of the cabs and work it out from there.Oh and are you sure about 1x18? isnt it a 1x15?[/quote'] If the head has two 300W 8 Ohm outputs then it'll be half power if he only plugs into one.Damned if I can find ant tech specs that tell me. If the two cabs are wired parallel, as you think G, the power won't be half, it depends on the output load impedance of the amp itself, which is, in effect, in parallel with the parallel speakers. And yeah, use the 4x10, the 18 won't reproduce a lot of top end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 If Im right, NM from the now defunct Evac Heaven used a bass amp because he was tuned so low (could be wrong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Correct he abused an h&k i believe He used it to hide his playing remember hahahahaJOKE !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonesaw Bazz Posted March 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 If the head has two 300W 8 Ohm outputs then it'll be half power if he only plugs into one.Damned if I can find ant tech specs that tell me. If the two cabs are wired parallel' date=' as you think G, the power won't be half, it depends on the output load impedance of the amp itself, which is, in effect, in parallel with the parallel speakers. And yeah, use the 4x10, the 18 won't reproduce a lot of top end.[/quote']Okay. But surely 300w 8 ohms trace elliot head with 4 x 10" cab will be loud enough for a guitar? I use a distortion pedal obviously but should i use this overdrive pedal too? I think trying it out is gonna be the best option haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Bazz, the Overdrive is pretty much....a distortion pedal. However, your pedal is a bit gash This is ace, Ive been in the band 2 years I have a head and no cab, a guitar case which barely resembles anything and a guitar that is well......pish; you have been in for 2 months and you have bought a new guitar, a hard case and have a fuckign amp and pedal. I'm so crap. Filth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Okay. But surely 300w 8 ohms trace elliot head with 4 x 10" cab will be loud enough for a guitar? I use a distortion pedal obviously but should i use this overdrive pedal too? I think trying it out is gonna be the best option hahaIt is without a doubt loud enough even unmiked for a normal venue/hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabags Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 It is without a doubt loud enough even unmiked for a normal venue/hall.I'd fucking say so. The head is a beast, it weighs more than my cock......and I fucking give women cancer when I shag them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 I'd fucking say so. The head is a beast' date=' it weighs more than my cock......and I fucking give women cancer when I shag them.[/quote']You dirty cunt lol:up: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Okay. But surely 300w 8 ohms trace elliot head with 4 x 10" cab will be loud enough for a guitar? I use a distortion pedal obviously but should i use this overdrive pedal too? I think trying it out is gonna be the best option haha I think it'll would be more than loud enough, you'll probably be able to play a gig in Stonehaven from the comfort of home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonesaw Bazz Posted March 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 I think it'll would be more than loud enough' date=' you'll probably be able to play a gig in Stonehaven from the comfort of home.[/quote']All questions answered sufficiently. Thank you gentlemen.... and Dave. (i guess)oh and if i didn't buy a guitar what the fuck was i gonna use? You didn't like the 2 bassists idea!!!! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeC Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 If the head has two 300W 8 Ohm outputs then it'll be half power if he only plugs into one.Damned if I can find ant tech specs that tell me. If the two cabs are wired parallel' date=' as you think G, the power won't be half, it depends on the output load impedance of the amp itself, which is, in effect, in parallel with the parallel speakers. And yeah, use the 4x10, the 18 won't reproduce a lot of top end.[/quote']Yeah....what he said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Guitar into a bass amp will have a fairly large low end and a huge clean headroom, so a pedal would be essential for dirtI remember trying an Ashdown five fifteen (65watt 1x15 bass combo) against my JCM2000 DSL401 (40 watt 1x12 guitar amp) and the Marshall came out on top for the sound I was after. Against a little 10 watt tranny amp the bass amp was awesome though David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeid Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Kyuss used to use bass amps with guitars once upon a time(I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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