Dan G Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Cheesy? or awesome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Well we all know you love them, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lisa Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 awesome definitely.but then all the harmonies i write are pretty much based on this i think...so i have to say that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Philip Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Sounds great with flutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 The old third above is good, aye, but not just playing a third above each note of the melody. As long as you've got two of the notes from triad of the chord, or a passing note towards one, preferably avoiding an open fifth, it'll sound great. Especially if you can get the harmony line counterpointing above and also below the main melody. I'm a sucker for suspensions too.*drummer disguise blown*Ahem...I mean, I like heavy sticks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 I dunno, but Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Dunno, but Im going to get guitar lessons soon so I can learn what your talking about lolSuspended, augmented 3rd major chords ?( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayeth Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Awesome. See: In Flames - Dialogue with the Stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 "Cheesy? or awesome?"I'd say cheesy, yet awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Craig_HexPen* Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 lol - cheesyness we all know the best intervals are major sevenths , flat ninths and sharpe fourths DIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOONANTTTT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Gilman Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 what the fuck? i know only of 5th's sometimes 7th's and some notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted March 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Originally posted by Aaron Gilman:what the fuck? i know only of 5th's sometimes 7th's and some notes. Well think of it like this, There are 8 notes in a 'normal' scale (if you include the root note an octave up from the original note)therefore from the root note, all following notes in a scale are gonna have different intervals in relation to it. So in the key of C major:C - rootD - 2ndE - 3rdF - 4thG - 5thA - 6thB - 7thC - Root an octave upTherefore the E note is the third to C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Gilman Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 gotchya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tam o' Shantie Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 10 easy wishes sing them in every single song we have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Originally posted by Dan Atom:C - root i'm liking the way that you've mastered the technique of explaining things to aaron by starting with something he can relate to.he likes seeing roots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Craig_HexPen* Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Originally posted by Dan Atom:Well think of it like this, There are 8 notes in a 'normal' scale (if you include the root note an octave up from the original note)therefore from the root note, all following notes in a scale are gonna have different intervals in relation to it. So in the key of C major:C - rootD - 2ndE - 3rdF - 4thG - 5thA - 6thB - 7thC - Root an octave upTherefore the E note is the third to C. dont mean to be picky but..... the original post didnt REALLY make perfect sense as you didnt say wether it was minor / major which is quite important seeing as the third is the note that defines wether a chord is minor/major.....heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted March 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Originally posted by *Craig_HexPen*:dont mean to be picky but..... the original post didnt REALLY make perfect sense as you didnt say wether it was minor / major which is quite important seeing as the third is the note that defines wether a chord is minor/major.....heh Well so I didn't get to heavily into all the maths side of things I kept it simple so folk who don't know too much theory could join in, but just to back up my original post:Firstly I was referring to lead melodies a la Iron Maiden, NOT chordal structures.Generally you would harmonise in diatonic thirds - as continuous parallel thirds, (whether major or minor) sounds terrible.So assuming you are playing in the key of E minor, and therefore harmonising in thirds, you would actually be playing major third harmonies to over half the notes, even though you are sticking within the "minor third" harmony.E > G = minor thirdF# > A = majorG > B = majorA > C = minorB > D = minorC > E = majorD > F# = majorTherefore, in a lead melody (assuming you are playing a variation of notes) you would neither be playing constant major OR minor thirds. Hence why I didn't say "Harmonising in minor thirds, cheesy or awesome"However I am sure you know all this. Also, not meaning to be picky, but you said "in my original post" but then quoted my second post... ?( so apologies if I haven't replied correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pop-notmyface Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 lets not make things more complicated than they really are.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted March 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Originally posted by pop-notmyface:lets not make things more complicated than they really are.... Lets pour manual a big glass of shut-up juice for infecting a thread with an unncessary post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Craig_HexPen* Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 heh chill out m'homie just messing :Sshows you shouldnt piss with the master *schoolgirl giggle* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted March 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Sorry chief, I didn't mean it in a nasty way! But I know the various levels of theory knowledge of people who post here differs greatly; i.e if you explain stuff in too much detail you get lynched for being too mathematical, and then it gets picked up on if you don't go into enough detail! haha, can't win I suppose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Admit it, the theory is good for when you want to create a spot of power metal (although..your knowledge of Lord of the Rings is far more important ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Ascension Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Originally posted by Cloud:Admit it, the theory is good for when you want to create a spot of power metal (although..your knowledge of Lord of the Rings is far more important ) Oh dear... better watch out for some up and coming Maiden Taiwan original material then -Currently working on a song called about the Balrog in Moria lol!!! Better change our name to "Blind Guardian Taiwan" i think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Ascension Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 PS... Didn't mention - 3rd Harmonising is most definately AWESOME!!! It's the basis of our metal gods, the Mighty Iron Maiden!!! Am trying my best to mix it in with some stuff i'm writing for Taiwan, but it has to sound good first - doesn't always work and sound right - you can't just 3rd everything and anything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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