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I guess she never got over the old school tactic of changing stuff about to try and make it look like you weren't copying someone elses work. Dumbass.

Not many folk queuing at that end of the bar so the guy in that section was working it pretty well. For some reason the main bar bit takes ages to get served at, always when i have been there, hence i never use it.

Driving min

Hey I'm not defending it, I didn't really agree with the principle of raising more than required, which could be used for other unspecified projects, but Dave is aware of that. There is apparently a train of thought that if people are aware of what they have contributed to then it is OK. I dont agree but if others buy into that concept fair doos. I'm just pointing out that there were outgoings and you didn't take that into account....

Woodsinho at Dillinger Escape Plan in his Dirtdrinker T shirt, looking a bit forlorn at the busy side of the bar. Twice. I felt a bit bad as I got served relatively quickly at the quieter end. As payback I was twice served possibly the worst pint of shandy I have ever had. In fact the second was worse, the Carling had run out and the shift to Heineken was even less palatable, to the point I had to leave it 3/4 full. I think the lemonade was out of syrup.

This thread has displayed pedantry of a top class

Yeah I know, its not like I must switch it off or anything, its OK but just not my favourite. 'Venus in Furs' or 'All Tomorrows Parties' are my two favourites.

But he still made what he wanted to make without commercial or critical gain in mind remains my point. There's a difference between making music with those gains as the primary focus and adjusting your sound to suit and making what you want to make regardless of the appeal. Its not really important, personally I don't think Lou Reed solo nor early Velvet Underground had much broad commercial appeal. Later VU stuff was much more palatable to wider audiences because it was much more 'mainstream' sounding.

Actually the one VU song I will regularly skip...for some reason I just don't like it much....

He gave a fuck about his music and wanting to have it heard as he wished it to be heard, of course he did but he still didn't approach things with commercial or critical gain in mind is what I am trying to say. And I think what Albini said. If you have listened to the breadth of his life's work I think thats a fair assessment. I don't own everything he ever did but I have a fair spread from the VU through to early 00's. 'Transformer' is probably the closest he ever came to a 'commercial' record and even that is debatable other than 'Walk on the Wild Side' - you could say that the world caught up 20 years later when they used 'Perfect Day' in Trainspotting and for that charity thing.

The context was more on Lou Reeds attitude throughout his career rather than what his previous band may have done, although I dont seem to read that article the same as you in any case.

Im not playing that

...just in case anyone was going to see them and hadn't heard, Lemmy still not fully healthy. Dates to be rescheduled for Spring next year allegedly. Had tickets for 23rd Nov in Glasgow, hotel non refundable. Shellac playing that night, tickets bought. Back of the net.

Still not heard it but after seeing the footage of them doing 'White Light White Heat' I'm happy enough with that.

He made what he wanted to make at any one time without giving a fuck about commercial gain, critical acclaim or what anyone thought is what I think he meant. And given some of Lou's diversions i tend to agree with that assessment. I guess there aren't that many artists who have followed that line over so many years. Tom Waits, Dylan and Neil Young probably the most obvious.

Got my photo taken with Kirk Brandon from Spear of Destiny at The Moorings the other week. He wasn't that friendly tbh. Was MUCH more friendly to the lasses that approached him just after. Got thrown about the Stonehaven Town Hall stage by judo master Brian Jacks as a child. Forgot to bow to him afterwards like you were supposed to. Hud 'at, ye curly dick. Got a signed topless postcard of Page 3 legend Maria Whittaker after she was roped into attending a night at the Commodore Hotel in Stonehaven (RIP). I remember her being very tiny and dressed like she was just out of bed. Still got it, affixed to the door of my dart board cabinet, max. LADZ points. Had a piss next to Shutty from Terrorvision in the Mudd Club after seeing them at the Music Hall and broke all etiquette by asking him why he had dyed his hair blue. Got my ticket signed by all band members, which I still have. Luckily caught Tony Wright before he was on his knees holding himself up with the stage. Went to see PJ Harvey at the Barrowlands circa 2001, met her in the hotel lobby the next morning and got her to sign my ticket, which I still have. That was cool though. Spotted Neil Lennon in a bar on Byres Road before going to see Dirty Three last year. Got my photo taken with him to send to a couple of Celtic daft mates.

Received the new Red Fang CD from Amazon yesterday, when I opened the cardboard envelope it was devoid of the usual plastic wrapping you usually get on a new CD, when I looked at the back of the digipack sleeve it appears to be signed in marker pen by the 4 band members. Which is a bit bizarre but cool if genuine. Not sure how I ever find out.....never had this with a new CD but in the past I have bought second hand CD's by The Damned and Kyuss on-line that were both signed.

I think he is a genuine character with a peculiar (and amusing outlook) on life. Theres probably many folk similar out there but they just weren't fortunate (?) enough to be discovered by Gervais. I only saw the first season of the Ricky Gervais Show, that was mainly gleaned from the podcasts that I had already heard, perhaps the newer ones are a bit more scripted to try and keep it going?

The first series was good but the second one I thought suffered a bit from them doing too much to make him uncomfortable and hence just moan. Karl moaning is funny but not on a continual basis.

The Moaning of Life Latest series on Sky starring Karl Pilkington. Basically Karl's view on momentous occasions in life, first episode being concerned with marriage. He went to India and met a lass and her parents to discuss an arranged marriage with him. They were well up for it. He helped out at an Indian wedding with 5000 guests. He invented a new wedding technique in Las Vegas where a couple get married in a laundrette, bringing their dirty washing together as a gesture or future solidarity. Karl is ace so this is also ace. If you don't like him then you probably will hate it I guess. I think it benefits from not having Gervais in the background forcing him to do stuff, the Idiot Abroad stuff was suffering for that towards the end.

I know nowt about football and am not particularly interested but I think I will read this, Fergie is a character I like. I read Roy Keane's one for the same reason, it was great. I also have a book on Cantona yet to be read.

Tim Buckley, bit stylistically varied but his solo performance stuff is great

William Elliot Whitmore, fantastic voice