The thing is that our settings on our ampos were exactly the same as the settings were the last time you saw us Tim, thats why we are not sure of the source fot he problem. Onstage our sound was pretty much the same as always... im just wondering if it was the off stage mixing that was the problem... But there aint much we can do about it now... The sound was meant to be beefy... Yeah I can see that... Strange thing about us is in practice we 'rock out' completely, specially me and wheeler (bassist - 'cleartonebass') and completely get into it, yet we all seem to go all conservative and 'toe tapping' when we have been on stage... Especially recently. I remeber a gig we played at kef in November, and we just let go... and loved every minute of it... yet we haven't done that at other gigs... I have a feeling that a few more gigs down the line we will come into our own..