YETI Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 i just lost my tuner... :swearing: so i thought i might give in to the temptation of a bass multieffect but i have no idea of what to get or anythings :help: please help :help: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonie Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 ooh, multi fx........................it's a dangerous path to take!i'd be buying a tuner, a dunlop 105Q white crybaby and an electro harmonix bass balls pedal if i were you :-)spoonie X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YETI Posted December 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 sorry but that went right over mi head.. what do thay do? i dont want any distorsion, cant stand it on the bass. id like a flanger, compressor and an eq so i can boost up volume during the song. ive been sugested a zoom 206II or was 506II cant really remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Rocker Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 I have the Zoom one. Never use it as it's far too noisy in-line. Go for individual pedals.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Boss flanger for bass the BF3...Boss EQ for bass the Boss Tuner aswell, the TU-2 Dunno much about compression pedals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 I don't like tuners. I say learn to tune by ear and use the money you would of spent on the tuner on another effect or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 It's all well and good tuning by ear but it's not the easiest thing to do live...people do not like to you hear you tuning your guitar between songs and trying to do it quitely in a crowded venue doesn't work. Much better to mute the signal into a tuner and get it done accurately and quickly. Plus if there's 3 of you playing strings then your all going to want to be in tune together...again with as little noise as possible...if you all of you use tuners you don't have to play a note to know your all at pitch. Obviously tuning by ear is something worth learning to do but everyone uses tuners...it elminates any potential problems/annonying noise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 On that note...I really should get a tuner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YETI Posted December 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 well said tav. to go back to the single effect combination... it will get a bit expencive and quite difficult to carry around... admitedly ive seen planks of wood used but still... but i know that im gonna buy the korg 18 from bruce millers and go back to what i was using... sad old me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Originally posted by Tav:It's all well and good tuning by ear but it's not the easiest thing to do live...people do not like to you hear you tuning your guitar between songs and trying to do it quitely in a crowded venue doesn't work. Much better to mute the signal into a tuner and get it done accurately and quickly. Plus if there's 3 of you playing strings then your all going to want to be in tune together...again with as little noise as possible...if you all of you use tuners you don't have to play a note to know your all at pitch. Obviously tuning by ear is something worth learning to do but everyone uses tuners...it elminates any potential problems/annonying noise... Yeah, I suppose been able to tune silently is a good thing. But it doesn't take me long to tune my bass as its never really badly out of tune, so a quick play of each string at a low volume is enough for me to tell if its in tune or not, and as soon as I play the string if its out I will get it to its correct pitch. I suppose it helps that I have kinda good pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Yeah, I suppose a quick little play isn't so bass...especially on bass since it's qutie a stable instrument with the fixed bridge...guitars with trem's can pose problems when it comes to stability...so might take longer to get back to pitch...Tuning by harmonics is a nice way to do it loud...or like Tommy Emmanuel he uses a little riff type thing that incorporates tuning with harmonics in it and is a nice little touch instead of the usual....DING -DUMMMM DING - DUMMMM DING-DING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YETI Posted December 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 on a for strings bass is cool but when you gotta tune 7 is a bit of a problem specially when the low a is so low that you canna hear the waves.the only problem with tuning wityh harmonics is that you arent really tuning... try it on a guitar and youll see what i mean, the perfect fifth of harmonics does not fit with the short octave of modern tuning... its a frequency thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Well this is what I am getting for Christmas.......http://www.guitarstrings.co.uk/search_details.asp?ID=903 There is also the one that is down a grade from it.........http://www.guitarstrings.co.uk/search_details.asp?ID=901 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YETI Posted December 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 if i go for a multi fx i want at least an expression pedal i wouldnt mind shoing of with a bit of wah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Rocker Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Originally posted by YETI:well said tav. to go back to the single effect combination... it will get a bit expencive and quite difficult to carry around... admitedly ive seen planks of wood used but still... but i know that im gonna buy the korg 18 from bruce millers and go back to what i was using... sad old me It doesn't have to be expensive, or difficult to carry around. I built my pedal board from a piece od laminate flooring covered in stickyback velcro. In all the total cost was about 50(power block, velcro flight case and patch leads), but now I have a set up that you can lift straight out of the case, plug in and play. No messing around setting up stuff. The dials on the pedals never get changed as the don't get knocked, and they are well protected for when travelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Who says you even need to buy all your effects pedals...alot of the are only some simple electronic components arranged in different way to alter the signal...I bet I could make the majority of distortion pedals for about 2/3 if that...obviously you need cicuit diagrams <got> the components <readily available> and a soldering iron...then some sort of container to mounrt it in...might not look as cool but at 3 instead of 60 it works for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YETI Posted December 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 hey even if it was 5 per effect id go around with a utterly butterly spread box. the problem is that i know as much about electronics as a wall would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Hmm well I know a fair share from the subjects I do, I am planning on sticking some pedals together soon to see if the theory works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by YETI:short octave of modern tuning What's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris h Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 yeah, just what i was gonna ask! what new sorcery is this, mmm? my tuppence worth: don't buy a multi effects unit, ever. especially not anything made by zoom, they are just horrible. Tuning pedals are, i beieve, essential, but to be honest that's cos i'm not perhaps the most 'musical' of people. I find things like dropping a bass to D on stage, with one guitarist doing the same, the drummer fucking around, all the booing in the background etc is just bloody useless. much easier to just stand on your pedal and watch the comforting wee lights guide you home! as for bass distortion, i never used it before, but have started using it recently really sparingly, just to beef up the heavy bits at the end of songs, under solos and stuff like that. I've seen some bassists use it eery time the guitars go heavy, and it can be a bit too much. For what its worth i use a Snarling Dog guitar pedal. It makes a hellish racket, and its got a dog on the front whose eyes light up red when you switch it on. That's what's important to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundian Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 I still want to know what this 'short octave tuning' is. Anyone shed any light on this. And don't suggest short scale cos i'll just laugh, I remember enough wave theory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spellchecker Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 tav, have you ever found any schematics for pedals on the internet? i remember looking before but not getting anywhere. would you links to some here if you know of any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 I found a fantastic site with 100's of different anolouge pedals on it. Will stick link up tonight if I can find it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig deadenstereo Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 If you search for "mudhoney" and gear or pedals or something, you get to a site that shows you how to make a superfuzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YETI Posted December 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 right before i can explain what i ment by short octave i have to do a bit of background knowledge. if you take the friquency of a standard a (440 Mh) and the frequency of the next a up (god knows what) subtract the smaller number from the bigger divide by 7 you get what should be the difference from one note to anopthe unfortunately does not work like that. now if you take a fitfth interval (bog standard power chord) is not a real fifth frequency wise but is slightly short of one. again if you ty to tune a guitar only with armonics you'll find yourself with a very out of tune hi e if you want some mathematical information about this check out http://www.skytopia.com/project/scale.htmlfor any more questions just fire out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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