Demon Of The Fall Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 What are everyones opinions on satanic bands that fit into the 'genres' that people listen to on these boards. Are people put off by the religious elements in the lyrics, or the bands views on religion. Or are there any that you actually like?Discuss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted December 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 ....shit, wrong forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Laser Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 I didn't have a reply for this, so I popped off to google, and searched for "satanic punk". Moments later and I was reading the difference between athieism and satanism. Thanks.http://www.the600club.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=arts&Number=11321&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 What are everyones opinions on satanic bands that fit into the 'genres' that people listen to on these boards. Are people put off by the religious elements in the lyrics' date=' or the bands views on religion. Or are there any that you actually like?Discuss? [/quote']Hey cool, take the piss if you like man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted December 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Hey cool' date=' take the piss if you like man?[/quote']And how is that taking the piss? I wanted to see what peoples opinions are on the flipped side of the coin. The fact that I copied your 1st post was to keep it as similar as possible "take the piss if you like man?" - Thats not a question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 And how is that taking the piss? I wanted to see what peoples opinions are on the flipped side of the coin. The fact that I copied your 1st post was to keep it as similar as possible "take the piss if you like man?" - Thats not a question Cool, sorry i'm in a shit mood, thought you were taking the piss by using my exact words- makes sense now though. and i'm shit with exclaimation/question marks i'm always thinking one but typing the other. In answer, i think they're pretty funny, 'cause they kinda take the piss outta themselves with their image etc. As with everything a lot of fans seem to take it far too seriously and take it too far. There have been far more deaths due to satanic bands music than due to christian band's music. But you can't blame the bands for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Found Power Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 hIdDeN MeSsAgEs In OzZy OsBoUrNe sOnGs MaDe Me dO iT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim.. Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 What Satanic bands?I can think of a many bands with Satanic undertones but nothing really reflects Satanic literature from Anton Zander LaVeys Church of Satan.Take bands such as Cradle of Filth, Akercocke and Deicide. The lyrics mainly describe a form of devil worship (different from Satanism believe it or not!) Akercocke filled the inlay of their album sleeve with Enochian symbology to add realism to their cause but what they actually put there makes no contextual sense. Putting one Enochian symbol between song lyrics is like putting one word from a poem down. Pointless unless the whole thing is there.The only band that seems to have taken religeous philosophy (Shamanism) and put it to clever use in their albums is (in my opinion) The Fields of the Nephilim. Satanism / Devil Worship sells albums and fits in with the rock music. It's that simple. I like bands with good lyrics whether they are religeous or not. Saying that though, I love Rammstein and haven't the slightest clue what they are singing about half the time!Sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.M Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 hIdDeN MeSsAgEs In OzZy OsBoUrNe sOnGs MaDe Me dO iT.Jodie Foster made me do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted December 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 What Satanic bands?I can think of a many bands with Satanic undertones but nothing really reflects Satanic literature from Anton Zander LaVeys Church of Satan.Take bands such as Cradle of Filth' date=' Akercocke and Deicide. The lyrics mainly describe a form of devil worship (different from Satanism believe it or not!) Akercocke filled the inlay of their album sleeve with Enochian symbology to add realism to their cause but what they actually put there makes no contextual sense. Putting one Enochian symbol between song lyrics is like putting one word from a poem down. Pointless unless the whole thing is there.The only band that seems to have taken religeous philosophy (Shamanism) and put it to clever use in their albums is (in my opinion) The Fields of the Nephilim. Satanism / Devil Worship sells albums and fits in with the rock music. It's that simple. I like bands with good lyrics whether they are religeous or not. Saying that though, I love Rammstein and haven't the slightest clue what they are singing about half the time!Sue.[/quote']i understand the difference.a band like At The Gates had almost uplifting lyrics about modern satanism "under a serpent sun, we can all live as one" there are plenty of bands who have satanic lyrics without calling every song Inverted cross or somthing like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neil ex Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Isn't Satanism something mainly to do with following your desires? It's a very misunderstood religion, I know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest haigyman Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 yeah, like they don't necessarily praise satan or something, just see him almost as the ideal yet unacheivable goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 It's the exact flip of the Christianity thing I think. I won't take the lyrics to heart for sure but I'll at least read them if I like the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.M Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Isn't Satanism something mainly to do with following your desires? It's a very misunderstood religion' date=' I know that.[/quote']Indeed. Self-fulfilment by any means necessary is what satanism basically is. I suppose this is why many believe it to oppose christianity, due to most of the Christian ideals focusing on helping your fellow man.Gah, it's too early, my head hurts now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Satanic bands? Mmmm. I reckon most of the guys in these bands just use Satanism for lyrical content. They are mostly just Athiests who are perhaps disillusioned by Christianity IMHO. True Satanic bands i.e. the Church burners etc? Dunno seems a bit silly. Although guys like Marilyn Manson, who is a self proclaimed Satanist has some very solid ideas regarding the contradictory nature of Catholicism and the dodgy redneck section of American society. He doesnt really strike me as a right evil fucker, just a guy who has some relevant points.Personally, I am athiest who is spiritual, I need convincing on any religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 I still really don't understand what the principles, as such, of Satanism are. If it is self-fulfilment by any means necessary then that just seems to me to be preaching selfishness. Quite anti-utilitarianist. Somebody care to enlighten me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 I still really don't understand what the principles' date=' as such, of Satanism are. If it is self-fulfilment by any means necessary then that just seems to me to be preaching selfishness. Quite anti-utilitarianist. Somebody care to enlighten me?[/quote']...ignorant and before you start, its a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxton's Superb Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 playing with fire there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 playing with fire there!he loves me really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 ...ignorant and before you start' date=' its a joke[/quote']Yeah, i know but seriously enlighten me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Yeah' date=' i know but seriously enlighten me.[/quote']if you want any info on it, i'd look up anything about Anton Laveyhttp://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=anton+lavey&spell=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim.. Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Satanism is about selfishness. "Satan" being an ideal and not a fiery guy with hooves. The idea is that YOU are God. There is no other. (No God greater than man.)The afterlife doesn't exist therefore you have one chance to shine. There is no sin however there are certain 'do's and don'ts'. Chances are, you probably live the life of a Satanist and not even realise it. The Church of Satan website goes into greater detail if you are interested or I recommend buying The Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey. (Available in all good bookshops except that Christian one on Back Wynd!)Sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen B Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Having had a little scan thorugh some sites it seems that as with most religions Satanism has a certain degree of merit and i as a christian could quite easily adhere to some of it's rules which are consistent with christianity anyway. But some of it i find ridiculous like:4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy. and11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.But things like this make sense to me:3. SolipsismCan be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They wont.Though i must say that just the aesthetics of it would suggest to me that many Satanists themselves don't take it seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Of The Fall Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 i found this rather interestingThe Nine Satanic Statementsby Anton Szandor LaVey 1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence! 2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams! 3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit! 4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates! 5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek! 6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires! 7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his divine spiritual and intellectual development, has become the most vicious animal of all! 8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification! 9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years! (not a satanist...or birdman) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 What Satanic bands?The only band that seems to have taken religeous philosophy (Shamanism) and put it to clever use in their albums is (in my opinion) The Fields of the Nephilim. Sue.The Nephilim will make there return in early 2005 with a new album under Carl McCoys full leadership.......Hail the return of the king!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mmm satan in music, it's something to write about ain't it, you can read as much or as little as you want into it.Music after all is only entertainment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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