The Milner Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I think he means that he doesnt understand you supporting anything Capt Tom does, because your label releases music more to his tastes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eupraxia Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 This car crash of a thread keeps getting worse and worse. I think some of the author's posts are fueled quite heavily by alcohol, drugs, and confusion; which makes him appear highly incoherent and bitter, and renders the thread almost entirely pointless. Aberdeen artists very rarely go on to national acclaim or "cultural significance" (what a shit term) for the same reason that bands from Leicester, Norwich, Inverness, Carlisle, Derby, Shrewsbury, Stirling, Swansea, Southampton, Portsmouth rarely do. These places do not really have a cultural infrastructure which lends itself to the performing arts. Aberdeen based artists therefore have to go out of their way to gain attention from media, gig promoters, radio show producers, press agencies, record labels, blog writers, tour booking agents, and all of the things required for a band to achieve national attention. Sure, gig promoters, radio shows, blog writers, and record labels do exist in Aberdeen, but these are all at a very localised hobby level. So if the infrastructure is at hobby level, why on earth would the actual art surpass that? It is not a myth that artists require huge assistance from other parties in order to get to a level where it becomes a full-time vocation. There are one or two small exceptions to this rule historically, but these exceptions are generally not from the UK and the people involved were usually quite extraordinary individuals. In the central belt there is a palpabale infrastructure in terms of digital and printed media, booking agents, venues with forward-thinking in-house bookers, press agencies, music bloggers, full-time record labels (not to mention a plethora of incredible small-scale hobby labels), national radio shows, record shops, and gig promoters. None of these exponents have any need or desire to glance in the direction of Aberdeen because there is so much going on on their own doorstep; Aberdeen artists have to make their presence known in the central belt (and other musically plentiful places), and very few Aberdeen artists really make the effort to impress themselves on the central belt. A few self-organised gigs in Glasgow or Edinburgh here and there will not really suffice, but that is the extent to which most Aberdeen based artists pursue things. I think the fact that the latest piece of excitement in the Aberdeen music scene is called a "Battle of the Bands" and it is arranged by the primary local label (in terms of prolonged local reputation) sums up Aberdeen quite wonderfully. This is a label with a good local reputation, yet it has to arrange a Battle of the Bands in order to find it's next "signing". In other more musically fruitful areas, this just doesn't happen. The labels are fully aware of the bands already due to the artist's presence and also the coverage they get from the local media and press. This is not a criticism, just an observation. But I think the bottom line is, if a band's aim is to simply have fun and they acheive that, then they have definitely not failed. Regardless of how "culturally significant" or nationally-acknowledged they become during that period. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 *applause* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 This car crash of a thread keeps getting worse and worse. I think some of the author's posts are fueled quite heavily by alcohol, drugs, and confusion; which makes him appear highly incoherent and bitter, and renders the thread almost entirely pointless. Aberdeen artists very rarely go on to national acclaim or "cultural significance" (what a shit term) for the same reason that bands from Leicester, Norwich, Inverness, Carlisle, Derby, Shrewsbury, Stirling, Swansea, Southampton, Portsmouth rarely do. These places do not really have a cultural infrastructure which lends itself to the performing arts. Aberdeen based artists therefore have to go out of their way to gain attention from media, gig promoters, radio show producers, press agencies, record labels, blog writers, tour booking agents, and all of the things required for a band to achieve national attention. Sure, gig promoters, radio shows, blog writers, and record labels do exist in Aberdeen, but these are all at a very localised hobby level. So if the infrastructure is at hobby level, why on earth would the actual art surpass that? It is not a myth that artists require huge assistance from other parties in order to get to a level where it becomes a full-time vocation. There are one or two small exceptions to this rule historically, but these exceptions are generally not from the UK and the people involved were usually quite extraordinary individuals. In the central belt there is a palpabale infrastructure in terms of digital and printed media, booking agents, venues with forward-thinking in-house bookers, press agencies, music bloggers, full-time record labels (not to mention a plethora of incredible small-scale hobby labels), national radio shows, record shops, and gig promoters. None of these exponents have any need or desire to glance in the direction of Aberdeen because there is so much going on on their own doorstep; Aberdeen artists have to make their presence known in the central belt (and other musically plentiful places), and very few Aberdeen artists really make the effort to impress themselves on the central belt. A few self-organised gigs in Glasgow or Edinburgh here and there will not really suffice, but that is the extent to which most Aberdeen based artists pursue things. I think the fact that the latest piece of excitement in the Aberdeen music scene is called a "Battle of the Bands" and it is arranged by the primary local label (in terms of prolonged local reputation) sums up Aberdeen quite wonderfully. This is a label with a good local reputation, yet it has to arrange a Battle of the Bands in order to find it's next "signing". In other more musically fruitful areas, this just doesn't happen. The labels are fully aware of the bands already due to the artist's presence and also the coverage they get from the local media and press. This is not a criticism, just an observation. But I think the bottom line is, if a band's aim is to simply have fun and they acheive that, then they have definitely not failed. Regardless of how "culturally significant" or nationally-acknowledged they become during that period.Eloquent bastard.Norwich does, however, produce DJ's who are top class 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E.C Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 What is there not to like about Captain Tom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eupraxia Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Eloquent bastard.Norwich does, however, produce DJ's who are top class So does Aberdeen: Lockah. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Jack Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 So does Aberdeen: Lockah.*blows up* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 very few Aberdeen artists really make the effort to impress themselves on the central belt. I'm finding it hard to impress myself upon Aberdeen, never mind the central belt. But that's my fault - a combination of inaction, shyness, modesty and a nagging suspicion that I'm wasting people's time. It's the anxiety that makes a 3 minute song seem to last 9 minutes when you're playing someone one of your tracks waiting to hear what they thought of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flights Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 As far as I'm lead to believe most people start bands to have fun and make some music. You achieve those two things you're not failing as you're doing what you set out to do. Tom's battle of the bands gigs have been pretty well attended from what I've heard. There was more folk at the heat we played than gigs we've played supporting out of town bands that are reasonably well known. Personally I think it's a great thing Tom's doing. He's getting people down to gigs and promoting a heap of new musicians and bands from Aberdeen. GBOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'm finding it hard to impress myself upon Aberdeen, never mind the central belt. But that's my fault - a combination of inaction, shyness, modesty and a nagging suspicion that I'm wasting people's time. It's the anxiety that makes a 3 minute song seem to last 9 minutes when you're playing someone one of your tracks waiting to hear what they thought of it. 3 minutes? What are you, fucking Iron Maiden? 70 second songs FTW. xx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 3 minutes? What are you, fucking Iron Maiden? 70 second songs FTW. xx So your anxious wait is only perceived to be 3 and a half minutes long? Lucky you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca_gere Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 This car crash of a thread keeps getting worse and worse. I think some of the author's posts are fueled quite heavily by alcohol, drugs, and confusion; which makes him appear highly incoherent and bitter, and renders the thread almost entirely pointless. Aberdeen artists very rarely go on to national acclaim or "cultural significance" (what a shit term) for the same reason that bands from Leicester, Norwich, Inverness, Carlisle, Derby, Shrewsbury, Stirling, Swansea, Southampton, Portsmouth rarely do. These places do not really have a cultural infrastructure which lends itself to the performing arts. Aberdeen based artists therefore have to go out of their way to gain attention from media, gig promoters, radio show producers, press agencies, record labels, blog writers, tour booking agents, and all of the things required for a band to achieve national attention. Sure, gig promoters, radio shows, blog writers, and record labels do exist in Aberdeen, but these are all at a very localised hobby level. So if the infrastructure is at hobby level, why on earth would the actual art surpass that? It is not a myth that artists require huge assistance from other parties in order to get to a level where it becomes a full-time vocation. There are one or two small exceptions to this rule historically, but these exceptions are generally not from the UK and the people involved were usually quite extraordinary individuals. In the central belt there is a palpabale infrastructure in terms of digital and printed media, booking agents, venues with forward-thinking in-house bookers, press agencies, music bloggers, full-time record labels (not to mention a plethora of incredible small-scale hobby labels), national radio shows, record shops, and gig promoters. None of these exponents have any need or desire to glance in the direction of Aberdeen because there is so much going on on their own doorstep; Aberdeen artists have to make their presence known in the central belt (and other musically plentiful places), and very few Aberdeen artists really make the effort to impress themselves on the central belt. A few self-organised gigs in Glasgow or Edinburgh here and there will not really suffice, but that is the extent to which most Aberdeen based artists pursue things. I think the fact that the latest piece of excitement in the Aberdeen music scene is called a "Battle of the Bands" and it is arranged by the primary local label (in terms of prolonged local reputation) sums up Aberdeen quite wonderfully. This is a label with a good local reputation, yet it has to arrange a Battle of the Bands in order to find it's next "signing". In other more musically fruitful areas, this just doesn't happen. The labels are fully aware of the bands already due to the artist's presence and also the coverage they get from the local media and press. This is not a criticism, just an observation. But I think the bottom line is, if a band's aim is to simply have fun and they acheive that, then they have definitely not failed. Regardless of how "culturally significant" or nationally-acknowledged they become during that period. I think this is pretty much what every sensible person really thinks (including even OP himself I would suggest). Well put. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getbacktothatguy Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Sex appeal and illuminati symbolism would solve it. Crossroads at midnight stuff.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Zero Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Annie Lennox has won 8 Brits and 4 Grammys. And a Golden globe and Academy Award. Edited February 12, 2014 by Monster Zero 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyEB Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Pfffft, I got rid of all 10 FREE copies of my recent EP (PLUG), AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND had to make an 11th due to unexpectedly high demand. FUCK YOU ALL, I AM CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'm not even convinced Aberdeen produces any less famous/commercially successful (whatever it is "culturally significant" or "breaking out" means) relative to other places of similar population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 *blows up* According to this he was lying and not blowing up, merely bubbling. http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2014/02/bubblin-lockah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 See, they don't fail, they just move to Brighton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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