Soda Jerk Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 When someone did the climb out of the pit, and they fell for about 50 feet, and then immediately came to a halt because of the rope, how come that person didn't like, y'know, die from being broken in half from the velocity of falling 50 feet and then snapped back by a rope with no give whatsoever?That would have made the climb more sinister, by showing that if you fail, you're fucking dead. But no. Bit of rope and you're fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 I assume it was a prisoner who set up the rope, as the prisoners seemed to be keen on folk trying to escape and not dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonie Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 The rope was on a pulley, so as the person climbed, the guy at the bottom would take the slack. I lot of the drop was the rope stretching and decellerating the person tied to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Now Clearing All These Bricks By Hand It Was So Very SlowSo I Hoisted Up A barrel And Secured A Rope BelowBut In Me Haste To Do The Job, I Was Too Blind To SeeThat A barrel Full Of Building Bricks Was Heavier Than MeAnd So When I Untied The Rope The barrel Fell Like LeadAnd Clinging Tightly To The Rope I Started Up InsteadI Shot Up Like A Rocket, And To My Dismay I FoundThat Halfway Up I Met The Bloody barrel Coming Down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 The rope was on a pulley, so as the person climbed, the guy at the bottom would take the slack. I lot of the drop was the rope stretching and decellerating the person tied to it.The film didn't show that though. It showed someone fall, at what looked like full speed and velocity to my eyes, and then come to an immediate halt from rope tied around their waist. It didn't look like their fall was being slowed down, nor did it show someone being responsible for slowing down the fall. A fall like that should essentially break someone in half. I don't really mind about that plothole, but just thought it would have been a much more daunting task if the result of a failed climb was death by being snapped in two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Didn't you see the great hulk looking guy holding the rope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 I did, but the fall doesn't slow down. They fall. Then the fall is instantly broken. Snap! He doesn't bring the fall to a slow gradual stop, does he? Pretty sure he doesn't. They just halt at what looks like full speed, regardless of whether or not it momentarily pans to someone allegedly holding the rope. It showed some guy to the climb before Bruce Wayne did it. I actually thought it killed him when he fell. I realised it didn't kill him when Bruce Wayne had a few goes.Where's Dubya? He knows ropes and falling and safety and stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 He was probably the guy in the batman costume. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney_stu Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 I did, but the fall doesn't slow down. They fall. Then the fall is instantly broken. Snap! He doesn't bring the fall to a slow gradual stop, does he? Pretty sure he doesn't. They just halt at what looks like full speed, regardless of whether or not it momentarily pans to someone allegedly holding the rope. It showed some guy to the climb before Bruce Wayne did it. I actually thought it killed him when he fell. I realised it didn't kill him when Bruce Wayne had a few goes.Where's Dubya? He knows ropes and falling and safety and stuff.You are making the mistake of assuming that the film is real life .... its a movie ! and one based around a comic book... normal rules don't apply... But it was still a heap of shite... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 I hate that argument. I'm only willing to accept the premise a film lays out. Batman is set in a fictional city but all the rules of reality are real. Shoot someone, they die. Fall from a height, break bones and/or die. Bruce Wayne can kick a lot of ass, but with a recently broken back, falling from a height being hoisted by the wasit would snap him in half.xx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 The film involved people. People are vulnerable. Even Bruce Wayne is vulnerable. He is tough and good at fighting, but he's not a super human. Things that kill people in real life should kill people in a film. They spent a quarter of a billion dollars making it look as realistic as possible, so realism was definitely part of the ethos for the film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 There's an epilogue where it shows the whole thing is in Alfred's head. He's crazy because all 3 of them were shot that night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Maybe they were insinuating that Batman is actually part jelly fish, just in time for the next part of the series, "Batman - The Damp Squid" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Nah the next one is about Bruce Wayne going on a guinness bender. The Dark Shite.xx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney_stu Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Maybe they were insinuating that Batman is actually part jelly fish, just in time for the next part of the series, "Batman - The Damp Squid" Damp squib ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 I thought the next one will be a Robin film starring that kid from 3rd Rock From The Sun? John Lithgow to be the Joker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonie Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Right enough, everyone's climbing expert! Why don't you bunch of Bear Grylls' fuck off and let the rest of us enjoy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 I just saw it tonight. Can't be arsed reading the whole thread but I thought it was great. Very happy with it especially as I found TDK to be disappointing (apart from The Joker). This was great though, a bit cheesy at times but never went too far and maybe got the balance right to make it the best of the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Android Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 FTR, I refuse to acknowledge Die Hard 4.0 as a real thing.Ok I went back one page and saw this. Die Hard 4 is great. Certainly not the weakest of the series which is obviously 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubbs Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Ok I went back one page and saw this. Die Hard 4 is great. Certainly not the weakest of the series which is obviously 2.2 is fucking horrific, with 4.0 being a hell of a lot better. It also has Bruce Willis in it, so it's not some pissy little add-on where they've just reused the title (like Free Willy, Home Alone etc...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oedo 808 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 I don't feel the film was true reflection of what I'd come to expect from a Batman and Robin movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Easy Wishes Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Ok I went back one page and saw this. Die Hard 4 is great. Certainly not the weakest of the series which is obviously 2.Went to total shit for me when he hitched a ride 'surfing' on the wing of a low-flying plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonie Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 That kind of thing happens more often than you'd think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 I don't feel the film was true reflection of what I'd come to expect from a Batman and Robin movie.This was on the telly last night. I've actually never seen it, but it looks dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaakkkeee Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 In all honesty, it's George Clooney and Uma Thurman that ruin it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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