Foreskin Ninja Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 ESP EX-400BD LTDorIbanez RG1620XThat's right, stretched the page. 8) But from these two, which would you choose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Ascension Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Ibanez without even thinking twice...Edge Pro bridge is really quite good - better than the shitty Floyd Rose Licenced ones.Wizard neck - imho is the way all guitar necks should be! Its soo comfy and lightning quick too.Is that one of the Prestige Ibanez RG's or not?? If not ... go for a Prestige one I'd say - the most expensive you can afford (I myself am getting the RG1570ZBL - yep thats L for Lefty freak!) which is the only one i can get Left Handed but it is a fantastic guitar... absolutely incredible.But then i'm not a big fan of ESP to be honest... especially the LTD's.Short answer - Ibanez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Id get the Ibanez because I can't stand playing guitars without trems since I got the RG550 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Tourist Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Don't be a fool....Get a Fender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayeth Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 The ESP, cos I have a cheaper version of that and I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Ascension Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Strats for me ... are over-rated.That might just be the most blasphemous thing i've said being a hardcore Maiden fan but - I don't like them.I'd take the Ibanez any day mate, and I'd never look back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Strats...over rated...bah!I would also go with the Ibanez. My dads got the Yamaha RG which is based on the Ibanez and I think it's a real nice guitar. Great shape based on the fantastic strat. Comfy and ballanced when strapped on <see how strap pin is level with 12th fret...that's a good indication that the guitar will have good ballance>. As for sounds the Ibanez RG is great for all that hard rock/metal mlarky but they are also suppose to be fantastically versatile guitars as well...something I can't see the ESP being but you never know. I don't like the slender necks you get on the majoirty of Ibanez's so this will have to be something you try out to make sure you like. So yup..try em out and see for yourself but I'd go with the Ibanez. Oh and if your willing to spend a bit look in to get the limited J-Custom which was review in guitarist in one of the recent issues...suppose to be better than that prestige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 i have a fender it's well gnarley.but yeah choose the RG over that other thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 out of the two i would probably go for the ibanez, the esp is kinda cool, but i just dont like the shape that muchi would go have a look at Jackson guitars, the ibanez is basically a copy of the Jackson soloist... and if you are contemplating a ESP ex, i would also check out the Jackson kelly and warriorkelly-warrior-personally, the next guitar i buy should hopefully be a teleDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 Definately the top one but it's close. That Jackson Kelly that David just posted is nicer than them both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Ascension Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 IF you go for something other than Ibanez, make sure you spend a little more cash and get a proper Floyd Rose Original trem. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT get a Floyd Rose Licenced Trem...this will be the bane of your guitar playing life. My bro has a Jackson with a Floyd Rose Licenced bridge and its like it was thrown together with some crap shovel in the depths of some Korean slave labour camp! The quality of the metal is shit, rusted all to shit, and it has been such a pain in the ass changing strings, etc, with its shoddy construction. He's going to get it fixed, possibly get a new trem system put in (a real Floyd Rose!) and thats not something you really want to do...Ibanez stopped calling their Trem systems Floyd Rose Licenced a year or 2 ago because FR demanded too much money. So now what you have is a pretty damn good trem system - see here...http://www.ibanez.co.jp/world/product_news/pages/prestige2004/area_e/rg.htmlAnyway you get the idea, the moral of the story is beware of Floyd Rose Licenced bridges!-Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 The ESP! but I would rather be unpopular and say a decent BC Rich! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 BC rich are root. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Ascension Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Originally posted by Leckie Gilman:BC rich are root. I wouldn't say they were root, just better off getting the Ibanez above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 hmm dunno like.i had a shot of a BC Rich mocking bird and i've played other BC Riches an they suck ass.like i've had plenty time to like play around with that BC Rich i had a shot of to fully like get a deesc opinion on it and it just sucks. like it has waaaaaaaaaay too much high end with a piss poor low end whoch is surprising for a "metal" guitar. and the balance is keek and the neck is a crap shape.nae a fan at all.i think i'll just stick to my good ol' strat and les-paul.deesc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feeble! Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Yeah, I played a BC Rich the other day, it had a "locking trem" I think they're called, anyway - it wasn't the best guitar I've ever played.Later that day I played an american fender strat - it played so wonderfully, the price tag really put me off though, 690 and I only had 15 and a return bus ticket to inverurie, which the guys in R&B wouldn't accept for the guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulscoconutass Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 or Peavey V-Types.... I got one at 370 2 years ago and it's such an ace guitar if you don't want to shell out HEAPS for a top-of-the-range one.You get 'em with or without a floyd rose (i'd recomend without), lock tuning, 2 pickups, and a lovely curvacious body... mmmm also comes in heaps of other colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryn Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 I played a BC rich with a floating trem and it was the worst darned trem ever. Stiff as....a really stiff door handle compared to the ibanez ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 i have to say i love my bc rich... it sounds and plays beautifully (in my opinion anyway) mine is a NJ Neck thru series btwbruce millers also had in one of the exclusive series 'riches that was really really nice, played very similar to my guitar though (but without the trem and a archtop body)i havent been as impressed with the other bc riches ive played though, like the bodyart ones, they were pretty averageDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 i still think they're pretty poor and over rated.i think i already said they are root i think.................yeah i did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Originally posted by Leckie Gilman:i still think they're pretty poor and over rated.i think i already said they are root i think.................yeah i did. and i would say a strat is boring as fuck...(teles on the other hand...lovely things)personal opinion i guess though, so fair do's to youDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Boring? Too look at? Play? Soundwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 Boring? Too look at? Play? Soundwise?just to me a strat is a pretty generic guitar, almost everyone has one of some sort.i am not saying they are bad guitars, they sound excellenti would prefer a guitar like a Jazzmaster, strat influenced, but slightly different and also sounding amazingDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 You have a good point there. I'd quite like to make a strat from warmoth pieces but mix it up...maybe all mahogany construction with some interesting electrics/additions to the design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreskin Ninja Posted June 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 I got the Ibanez in the end, (IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER).I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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