Leckie Gilman Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Ash say's he's "art punk" when i say he's emo.is this a genuine label? or is he just avoiding the fact he's an emo kid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mike Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 it's a genuine label, but you don't hear of it much these days.If someone looks emo then they wouldn't be described art punk, I hope that's not the next title to be adopted by that lot, it'd be an insult to bands that do genuinely get called "art punk"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted April 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 but yeah what exactly IS art punk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Droid Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Does he like the band Televison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted April 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 no he likes taking back sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mike Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 as far as I know it was a label given to a few bands during the 80's. The only main one I can think of is Sonic Youth but I'm guessing there would've been other bands labelled with it too (possibly Mudhoney and their like?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted April 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 isn't that grunge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Originally posted by Leckie Gilman:Ash say's he's "art punk" when i say he's emo.is this a genuine label? or is he just avoiding the fact he's an emo kid? is this to do with his hair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mike Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Originally posted by Leckie Gilman:isn't that grunge? sonic youth weren't grunge, they're too atonal. Ask Johnny or someone with a bit of experience under their belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted April 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Originally posted by Camie: is this to do with his hair? that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Droid Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Originally posted by Leckie Gilman:no he likes taking back sunday Then he's a lying emo-kid. Burn him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted April 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 that's a bit harsh don't you think?surely you should feel sorry for people like him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Droid Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Lies + the mind-crime that is emo= immediate termination! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted April 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 cool. i'll give him a slapping next time i see him. i'll leave the rest up to you. you might have more fun anyway. heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Originally posted by Jonny Lucifer:Lies + the mind-crime that is emo= immediate termination! Emo wouldnt be classed as a "mind crime" though:Pwe should create a room 101:P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Droid Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 It's a crime against people who have a mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawy Lawson:Attorney Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Taking Back Sunday are to Sunny Day Real Estate what Busted are to The Clash (sorry, TBS fans, "Cute without the 'e'" is catchy, but those guys strike me as being of dubious integrity), it's not really fare to write off some awsome bands because of some dubious modern ones.As for Art Punk, I've heard the Icarus Line be labelled that, but I'm really not sure. I opened this thread to learn something, but instead I died a little inside and had to write this post through a mist of salty tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tank Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Well ASH got PUNX tattooed off his knuckles a long time ago. I wouldn't even call Ash even art punk, more just art. How can someone be in the RAF and get mad when people cheat the govenment, and think war is the only answer call themself punk in any kind of way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allstardawn Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 On a slightly related vein.. what's the difference between art PUNK and art ROCK? I was thinking art punk might have been something along the lines of The Clash, whereas art rock would be more Interpol-stylee music. Ach. It's just a label. I don't think Ash is emo anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragudave Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Art Punk = a band called Wire (who do loads of tracks originally done by Elastica, Blur et al) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 So this is art punk?Think of a number....divide it by 2....something is nothing....nothing is nothing...open a box....tear off the lid...think of a number...don't think of an answer.....I love that song to death but I couldn't tell you the fucking first thing what it is about :D:D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragudave Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Originally posted by Keilan 303:So this is art punk?Think of a number....divide it by 2.... You've just reminded me of Johnny Ball and his maths for kids programmes. They were fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leckie Gilman Posted April 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 so are like "new wave" bands like joy division and others like that art rock/punk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betamax Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 swell maps are the original art punk bandwire too possiblyvelvet underground less soyou get the picturereal shocks and xs relocat are sometimes labelled art punk by those in the knowvery removed from, and fuck all to do with grunge/rock/emo etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eat your parents Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Yeah New Wave was roughly given to Joy Division, although bands like Television are put under that label too.Art Punk to me is bands like Sonic Youth, as someone else said it originated in the 80's. It came from New York whether Sonic Youth originally played at some alternative venue (I forget the name). The owner of that venue gave the term to Sonic Youth. Apparently a lot of the creative mediums mixed in NY and he believed that "Art" was the best conceptual name for the band. I think that's right, if memory serves me...I'm afraid whoever says they're under this "label" might be a bit misguided. I've never reall known anyone to describe themselves as Art Punk, just their music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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