PrincessHolly Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 ARRRRGGGHHHHH!!! I was really looking forward to this film and it was UTTER BALLS!! Tom and I were actually offended by the completely ridiculously unnecessary sex scenes and there wasn't much violence in it at all!Balls balls balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 ARRRRGGGHHHHH!!! I was really looking forward to this film and it was UTTER BALLS!! Tom and I were actually offended by the completely ridiculously unnecessary sex scenes and there wasn't much violence in it at all!Balls balls balls.Offended? Sounds like a quality film!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medichi Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 You talk shite. It was ACE. The sex scenes were explicit, but necessary (cannot explain why - plot spoilers), and the violence was fucking brutal and explicit - but again necessary. There isn't a huge amount of it, but thas cos its not some steroid-induced bloodbath, its an actual FILM, and the nature of sex, violence and relationships was integral. It's NOT an action film. There were only 2 sex scenes anyway, totalling about 3-5 minutes screen time!I encourage anyone with a bit of patience to go and see it - but it isn't for everyone obviously. 3 drunk areshole neds walked out the screening I was in yelling "Jobbies", so I guess it requries a bit of intelligence..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessHolly Posted October 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 I am quite intelligent thank you very much! I just thought it was terrible overall. The only saving grace was Ed Harris who I love, and I thought the violence scenes were fine I just didn't see the need for all the sex. And the ending was awful! It was just like they didn't know where to go from there, so they just stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medichi Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 "All the sex"? As I said, less that 5 minutes long, and showing the difference between the two characters. I find it a little strange the violence was "fine" and the sex offending. Odd.Didn't mean to imply you weren't "intelligent", you just seemed to be after a different kind of film - "there wasn't much violence in it at all". I thought it was briliantly paced, with gut-punch moments of fear and violence - Vigo Wahtchamacallit was great - and I agree, Ed Harris was outstanding.It didn't just end - that last scene said so much with no dialogue, it was all in the small actions and the eyes, taht nothing more was needed....Great film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qzdiablo Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 as soon as it ended, i wanted to see it againjust to try and understand it better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red5 Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 i thought peter bradshaw's review was pretty good.http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Critic_Review/Guardian_review/0,4267,1580998,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historicrocker Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 In all honesty the film only appealed to me on one very basic level: of love and integrity. I suppose the film had a few things to offer in terms of morality and facing up to demons but it was really quote mediocre in retrospect. Viggo Mortenson portays vacuous charcater, vacuous character pretends to have hidden depth and then vacuous character becomes basis of intricate plot. Pretty unorginal if you ask me. I suppose in it's understated form it is quite remarkable, but in being praised it is no more potent than any of the two hundred other similar films. Shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eat your parents Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Deary me, there's nothing better than someone trying to sound intelligent. "Woeful, woeful, woeful day." I don't trust the opinions of those who doubt or disapprove of Cronenberg. That might sound ignorant to the possibility that he'll make a bad film, but statements like "there wasn't much violence" and "In all honesty the film only appealed to me on one very basic level: of love and integrity" make me hope that there is life on other planets. Perhaps Far and Away would've been better, that was on TV tonight. Shite.I haven't heard one coherent statement to really incline me to think that it isn't a good film.Brick wall, head banging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tam o' Shantie Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 "All the sex"? As I said' date=' less that 5 minutes long, and showing the difference between the two characters. I find it a little strange the violence was "fine" and the sex offending. Odd.Didn't mean to imply you weren't "intelligent", you just seemed to be after a different kind of film - "there wasn't much violence in it at all". I thought it was briliantly paced, with gut-punch moments of fear and violence - Vigo Wahtchamacallit was great - and I agree, Ed Harris was outstanding.It didn't just end - that last scene said so much with no dialogue, it was all in the small actions and the eyes, taht nothing more was needed....Great film.[/quote']man, what the hell is your god damn problem? you were plainly high when you went to see this movie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tam o' Shantie Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 reasons that this is a bad film:1 the bad sex scenes. If i wanted to watch porn, i'd go to the internet cafe - not the cinema. The un necessary flashing of the twat was completely ridiculous. the second scene i will discuss even though it has no spoilers (other than that the main character had a violent history, which even the most retarded of cunts could figure out). They fuck when angry, and he's being totally dominant - a reflection of his delving into his violent past. no fucking in-depth imagary, he fucks his own wife on a stair case, in a rough manner. that's it. 2 no ending. I'm starting to get real sick of movies with no ending. this movie had zero conclusion - the lazy director's ending. "quick, cut the final scene with him shifting his eyes round nervously". you never find out about the legal aspects, about whether his links to the dodgy past are terminated, whether they get on with their lives. a story is a story. i could write a fucking movie that had no ending - anybody could. finish your fucking scripts before you film your movies, cunts. 3. the little girl had a stupid face - it looked like that of an old man's.in a positive note, the violence was very gritty indeed and somewhat shocking. very hard hitting and the special effects were just fantastic. but even this entertainment could not save the grace of what is otherwise an odd, ramshackle script with no ending that makes no fucking sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 I knew it was a bad film when I saw the trailers on TV and the guy doing the voice over couldn't pronounce HISTORY properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael MacLennan Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I thought it was an amazing film, possibly the best movie I've seen this year. Fortunately the 'critiques' on this thread are so poor that I don't feel compelled to launch some angry defence. If you wanted more violence, go and see Ong-Bak.PS That isn't to suggest that I don't love Ong-BakPPS Please God, if you're going to use a word such as 'vacuous', look it up in a dictionary first, so you don't sound like a dolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I actually want to see it more now, but maybe thats just because the picture portrayed here appeals greatly to my sick and twisted mind. It does actually sound pretty good though and i like almost all of Cronenberg's other films, so i guess i'll go see it asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Disorder Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I liked it. A lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 i was gonna go see it... but saw 40 year old virgin instead.It was ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pop-notmyface Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Balls balls balls.hehe, did you demand your money back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medichi Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 man' date=' what the hell is your god damn problem? you were plainly high when you went to see this movie[/quote']You have issues. Dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessHolly Posted October 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 hehe' date=' did you demand your money back?[/quote']Don't be a tit. I haven't paid to see a film in years. Also, I didn't want there to be more violence, I just expected there to be more after seeing the trailer. The amount of violence was just dandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marillionboy Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 I haven't seen it yet, but why do sex scenes offend people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessHolly Posted October 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 I personally felt they didn't really have much to do with the storyline, perhaps the second one did, but the first one seemed pointless to me. I'm not prudish at all, and I was probably a bit overzealous when I said I was offended but I just didn't see the necessity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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