Flash@TMB Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Despite our best efforts last week there were still a couple of people willing to risk our license. For instance sneaking out the back door to drink a bottle of booze they'd hidden earlier. Unfortunately we'd get blamed for this despite not having served them anything all evening. So end of Under 18s admissions - well done whatever your name was!From now on we may choose to admit some 17 year olds, provided:a) They have photographic ID proving they are at least 17.AND EITHERb) They are a member of a party that is predominantly over 18 (and can prove it)ORc) They are one half of a couple and their partner is over 18.But this shall be entirely at the bars discretion.We may also permit some people aged 14-18 to attend gigs but they would have to:1) Contact me in advance to organise this and I'll add you to a list.2) Identify themselves at the door, and provide proof that they are at least 14.3) Provide proof of identity.4) Be subject to a search.5) Agree to be and remain clearly labelled as underage.6) Desist from repeatedly entering, exiting, and re-entering the building. And this includes the back door!7) Only be served soft drinks in cans - no glassware.8) Agree to leave immediately if requested to do so, for instance if the bar gets very busy.9) Do not have a bunch of mates hanging around outside.10) Are sober, remain that way, and do not attempt to obtain any access to alcohol whilst in the bar!Anyone prepared to strictly adhere to those conditions shall be able to attend Moorings gigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim.. Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 11. And don't look cooler than their elders. 12. And don't hang about the toilets saying how well they did on their recent A levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 invest in a stamp or a permanent marker and use the good ol' fashioned x approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NARC Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Or, just go for the even more old-fashioned brand-their-sweaty-little-foreheads-with-a-hot-iron approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Firefly Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 It serves the little bastards right. I've been in there a few times and its always crawling with drunk underagers. Its ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 invest in a stamp or a permanent marker and use the good ol' fashioned x approach.The just go straight to the bogs and wash it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 It serves the little bastards right. I've been in there a few times and its always crawling with drunk underagers. Its ridiculous.The latest trick is for a pack of them to show up. Half go straight past the bar, round the corner, into the carpark, then down into the yard behind Richards where they unpack their carry out. The other half (still sober at this point) pay to get in. Then when your not looking they exit the rear fire door and go out and swap places with the carry out team. This goes on throughout the night. Once the've been inside they also start to exit the front door, so that the doorman assumes he's already admitted them, and therefore feels compelled to let them back in. Ultimately you end up with a bunch of drunk 15 year olds, only a few of which have paid to come in, and none of them have been served (or even paid for a soft drink), pissing off your real customers.The only solution would be to assign addition security at the read door, and a monitor in each toilet... which would cost umm 150 a night assuming it could even be arranged.It simply isn't worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Get them tattooed next door with "under 18". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sazrock Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Get them tattooed next door with "under 18". Just think of the laughs you would have when you are say 30' date=' 40 or 65.... with that tattoo A video clip of "Gotta Get A Grip" taken from our recent gig at The Tunnels in Aberdeenis now on our website. Visit www.officialsaz.com/gigsandevents.htm MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/sazrock666Forthcoming SAZ gigs:21/8/05 @ The Q Bar, Leith Street, Edinburgh 27/8/05 @ The Barcode, Canal Street, Perth22/10/05 @ The Barcode, Canal Street, Perth 29/10/05 @ The Westport Bar, Dundee12/11/05 @ The Westport Bar,Dundee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timson Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 just I.D anyone that looks under 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 The just go straight to the bogs and wash it off.With permanent marker?!Takes more than good scrub to get it off.Maybe i've been using imported permanent markers from Hong Kong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 The latest trick is for a pack of them to show up. Half go straight past the bar' date=' round the corner, into the carpark, then down into the yard behind Richards where they unpack their carry out. The other half (still sober at this point) pay to get in. Then when your not looking they exit the rear fire door and go out and swap places with the carry out team. This goes on throughout the night. Once the've been inside they also start to exit the front door, so that the doorman assumes he's already admitted them, and therefore feels compelled to let them back in. Ultimately you end up with a bunch of drunk 15 year olds, only a few of which have paid to come in, and none of them have been served (or even paid for a soft drink), pissing off your real customers.The only solution would be to assign addition security at the read door, and a monitor in each toilet... which would cost umm 150 a night assuming it could even be arranged.It simply isn't worth it.[/quote']So stop playing the mission impossible & James Bond themes and surely this will stop!Jokes aside hat is very cunning.So much so that you could pin a tail on it and call it a fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catherine Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 i did try and warn underage music fans to not drink or they'd ruin their chance to get into the moorings again and bands would ban them from gigs.... but some folk are too selfish to care. its a reasonable policy though. expecially the bit about 17 year olds with friends who are 18 being alowd in. just shows was a nice pub you are. most places would just go totally over 18s only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 The only thing I could suggest would be going towards what the Cathouse does - you have to go to find someone who will give you a wristband if you show them valid ID - otherwise you can't get served at the bar. Obviously anyone that looks old enough wouldn't need one, but anyone in the vague area of 16-25 would have to have one. But no, it seems the problem is more than just people trying to buy alcohol from the bar, so in that respect no amount of wristband enforcement would change things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Of Fudge Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 i say we make it a sport. the kids can fight onstage for beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 are you offering to clean up the blood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim.. Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 The just go straight to the bogs and wash it off.They'd have to use the bog water too as you don't get much water out of the taps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Wristbands are also a needless expense' date=' I say that Flash's idea above is very good (and generous) and just have the back door made into "strictly for staff/band use"[/quote']You are thinking of the other back door, the one behind the bar that is for staff and bands only. The problem door is the main fire exit (along side the stage and gents toilet), which as it's THE MAIN FIRE EXIT, and must be easy to open. This leads directly onto the lane that runs up the side of the bar.Previously some underagers tried stashing a carryout beside the door, but I found it and drank it. Hence their latest tatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Laura@TMB Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 They'd have to use the bog water too as you don't get much water out of the taps.No, they'll just use the quarter bottle of Spar's own-brand vodka that they just happen to have in their back-pocket/ rucksack - it would do the trick, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I was trying to think what you meant by back door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Jokes aside hat is very cunning.So much so that you could pin a tail on it and call it a fox.It's similar to the scam that I used to pull on the ABC Cinema in the early 1980s. A group of us would scrape together enough funds for 1 ticket. Then one of us would enter the cinema and pay to see a film, and sit next to the fire exit. Once the film started, and it was dark inside, he/she would sneak down the fire escape and open the fire door to admit the rest of us. Then we got even smarter and simply tied a wire round the push bar and ran it under the fire exit door... gaining entry to the cinema anytime we wanted - even when it was closed - just by tugging on the wire.Needless to say we have the wire trick covered!Oh the irony!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash@TMB Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 i did try and warn underage music fans to not drink or they'd ruin their chance to get into the moorings again and bands would ban them from gigs.... but some folk are too selfish to care.Thanks for your efforts BTW We're due you a drink! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Wouldn't they notice a little bit of light from the back door if you did that in the cinema? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camie Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 That's what I thought. Although I did see Inept 303 go in and out of it before. We used the cellar when we played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshulu Rob Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 you could alarm the door, even have it cut off all the sound a big flashing light come on. That would be pretty embarassing for anyone caught using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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