jimr Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 The same generation? So during the Cold war when these people were our allies (remember that Munich, bastion of national socialism, was in the west) they were cold sadistic killers? You are still looking at it as a ghastly immoral enterprise (which it was) but things came out of that, and if you look only to morality to guide you on whether something is right and wrong then you will find that over the years it wont remain constant, in effect morality is defined by the victors. So if this is true then surely morality isn't the holy thing we hold it to be. It is more a tool used as a means of population control. Since there can be no universal morality then there must be some other reason that we behave as we do. The only other reason I can think of is pragmaticism. Even Jesus was pragmatic, "do unto others as you would have them do unto yourselves" It's simple common sense, without having to worry about everyone killing each other for things we can unite and make things more efficient. We can pretend that there is an underlying moral line somewhere in there but we are just fooling ourselves. So in this way you can question the simplest of moral beliefs. I'm not even saying thats right, all i'm saying is that you can't know that its wrong. I'm a romantic though so i'm all for morality, blatently concocted though it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimr Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Absolutely' date=' and I would be equally as condemnatory of anyone who tried to tell me the Khmer Rouge were a decent bunch of guys really, if you kind of look beyond the genocide.[/quote']Pol Pot was a lovely fellow. Just misguided, and er slightly mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Pol Pot was a lovely fellow. Just misguided' date=' and er slightly mad.[/quote'] That's like saying Harold Shipman was a cracking guy, as long as you didn't leave him with yr granny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv tanned Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Although Dave_MLL only specified Holocaust victims and never mentioned the Killing Fields, I think I should avoid pushing my luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Mel Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Bob' date=' Lester, Jonny Lucifer, Keira, Rainbow, Jamesy, Jester, Hog, Alan Cynic, Hardcore Mel.[/quote']am i in there as the token capitalist tory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Droid Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 no' date=' he reincarnated himself as a blonde fascist from Ythanbank.Nobody ever suspects them.[/quote']His spirit is reincarnated in the soul's of those brought up in the eighties by Thatcherite parents. I weep...But back on topic - surely Maxi should be in the house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 His spirit is reincarnated in the soul's of those brought up in the eighties by Thatcherite parents. I weep...But back on topic - surely Maxi should be in the house!Agreed,Maxwell is the beauty of a good party. Girl's not grey: Ythanbank is a smallish middle class village I was brought up in. Lots of "oil families".I'd like to say I'm right of middle anyways... I was talking about the benefit that we enjoy today from the medical advances. I'm not saying we should beat our children and gas innocent human beings at will.Saying that.... I think the majority of children now seem to be brats. Surely the odd smack would do them some good - a gentle one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydoll Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 His spirit is reincarnated in the soul's of those brought up in the eighties by Thatcherite parents. I weep...But back on topic - surely Maxi should be in the house!He's nae a member though It'd be better to save him and put him in as a surprise on a Friday night or something anyways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 how did this turn into a thread about the holocaust??Welcome to Aberdeen-Music!Since you're going to be a regular member' date=' all you have to do now is figure out WHY it became a thread about the Holocaust.If you give up then just say.[b'](Not Birdman) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rach_69 Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I know Ab-music Big Brother style would be war, but surely this thread is taking it a bit too literally? I think it would be really funny to do actually. Haigyman and females sounds HILARIOUS, i might even begin to feel sorry for the poor guy Jamesy and Hog would be great (Jamesy gave me a space invader yesterday, was yummy)Gareth (Masterofpuppets so yes he is actually a member of ab-music) and Haigyman would be AMAZING fun! Place your bets.. NOW!Rainbowprincess, Kiera, Robyn etc should be put in just to make the show look good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catherine Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 can i join in as a day-trip?i'd put..Gumpy' date=' Catherine (to see how a relationship would work in there), bob, jamesy, hardcore mel(for intellect), logan, sludge, rach69, melonpie, and... chris.oooooh the world of wisdom and funk.[/quote']haha that line up would be fun. though there are some people on there that would probably not go well with me and ryans relationship. but it would just be an excuse to get to spend all day doing nothing with him which we never do anymore :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 same old cliquey choices, i'd like to see 12 people put in who have registered on aberdeen music but never posted once.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 same old cliquey choicesapart from the person who picked me. I never appear in these things... my profile must have risen since I became a staff member.but really it's a bit of fun and you'll always get the same names appearing. That's just the nature of a community like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 yeah of course, it read worse that it was meant to sound.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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