Who are these 4, in your eyes, virtually identical bands? You are being ignorant. You're no different to the guy that didnt want to go see ten easy wishes play with the queers because they sound identical. Now you and me know our stuff so we know the differences. Maybe to you modern metal and hardcore bands sound alike but you're hugely mistaken. Again, it's just Ignorance. Let's take some local examples. There is virtually no similarity between MMW, CTS and WSBB. MMW put a modern spin on thrash and death metal with prog metal touches. CTS come from the more post Hardcore played with a Metal sound and WSBB come from the Grind/Tech school. Now all this to you might sound like bollocks but the same could be said when you hear people trying to explain to the person who doesnt understand the difference between pop punk, surf punk, skate punk blah blah. If you're into the music you know the differences. You really need to read your posts and think a bit more... Oh and saying that scenesters were an irritation to you "back then" when you were 15, 16, 17 at the most is a bit rubbish. How does one so young let themselves get so jaded?