ben_1903

woooop!!!!

I shall be in attendance

No idea what you guys are on about with the drummer? But on a side note - he is a superb drummer, especially on Frames. Immense.

and women who love men who love drugs. and catalyst.

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The perfect circle version of imagine = 100x better than the original. Oh and btw fuel kicks ass

get bopara to fuck. get mark ramprakash back in.

you win. thread over.

bahahahaahhaa ace

despite not being as popular as they were, i think FFAF are great. The third album is really good. Just listened to the new one on spotify - also sounding good. Hours is probably my favourite album of theirs.

When i saw them in Dundee in Dec 2007 they were excellent, and played a great mix of old and new. Rarities were: this years most open heartbreak, kiss and make up, and the art of american football.

Here is my theory: If it involves tactics, and each match is different to a good degree, it is a sport. Golf - is therefore a sport (though i hate it, i admit it is a sport) Snooker - a sport Bowls - Juuuust makes it. Though if there were a middle ground between a game and sport, i'd put it there. Its a spame, or a gort. Cricket - Deffinately. Also involves running and shit Darts - Not a sport. Doesn't matter if your opponent is on the moon via video link, all you ever try to do is reach zero first by getting treble 20 and then whatever is left. Thats not to say I don't respect darts players for their considerable skill and accuracy. They are good at their pass-time/game.

No. Cricket rules.

I have sen his stand-up (not live, on dvd) It was poopy pants. He's a pompous twat in that he is both pompous, and a twat. No, it is to be funny - not to exclusively tell jokes.

yas min

may well be... Colin from idlewild is chilling with his bird who is expecting another kid.

I like it!

yeah thats the one, where did you get that? My girlfriend is pretty smoking too!

Dude, my motivation for this thread was: 1. I had recently been repulsed by an extremely fat person on the bus, the topic of fatness was on my mind, I thought I'd post about it. 2. I was bored and felt like having a rant and starting a topic. Not to seem cool. If I wanted to look cool I would have posted a picture of myself with my four popped collars. If anyone is offended by that - I don't appologise. Finding extreme obeseity pretty minging doesn't make me a nazi. On your other point - yeah we spoke before and you also seem like a decent bloke....we just don't share the same opinions on this issue - all gravy.

What about fatties who get hand outs? If smokers pay tax on their fags - sure you can't calculate exactly what goes where; but they are still paying extra tax towards the NHS, which fatties don't. Smokers are treated like social piriahs, but to be really obese is becoming the norm and increasingly acceptable. Fat people (that don't have a medical reason to be fat) have just as much choice to be fat as smokers; but smoking is more addicitive than macdonalds!! And Phil, its not fair to say all my posts have been shite, I think my disagreement on the evoloution topic was well put...

Smokers PAY for their NHS treatment many times over from the tax. Fatties only pay VAT (as do non-fatties) and basically cost the NHS millions every year. So the smoking argument doesn't work, I'm not personally a smoker, but they do pay for it. Fatties don't.

a few points. I think the evolution/genetics debate is a side argument, and I'm not sure that we are on the same wave-length. As an avid Dawkins reader and having studied evolution im fairly certain my argument made sense. Maybe no - lets put that debate to bed. As for being mean to overweight people - its not nice to be mean to overweight people; true. But being disgusted by those with gunts is only natural.

Yes and no. You are quite right; genetics is the basis for different people's types of metabolism/energy conversion/development of fat etc etc But like I said - in your theory only those with a genetic basis for being fat would be selected for. Not the fatties we are arguing about - those who are fat because they just love burgers. In addition - I doubt those with a genetic basis for beiong fat would have much of a selective advantage anyway due to the inefficient nature of their digestion - they would store food as fat rather than utilise it properly.

must spread repuation around sadly...

I actually quite like the argument here for evolution, brings in an interesting side to the debate BUT. The argument is flawed at a very basic level: Natural selection would only select for fatties with a genetic basis for being a fatty, not for those who over indulge in macdonalds and then blame it on slow metabolism. That is to say, they would die like the rest of us. Given this thread is regarding fatties who make themselves fat and not those with a medical condition, it's irrelevant. In addition, if we were to have a world famine genetic fatties would probably not be selected for: they are inefficient in terms of energy conversion, they take the energy and send it straight into layers of fat - rather than sending it to be of use in the body.