Moon Moon Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 I used to have one of those Ltd Vipers. Solid guitars. It was cheap, but for the money, it had a big sound. Massive body. I agree though. The stock electronics were garbage. I put a SD Dimebucker in at at the time, as I got it for free. It was surprisingly good, and sounded totally huge. Probably not the pickup for you though, as it's geared towards METAL. Just lob a Seymour Dunc JB in it. As versatile as it gets. Or get some HB sized P90s. Because P90s are the bestest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelCRobertson Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 +1 on P90s, They are the besterest. If you're working on a budget, try Irongear. Cheap and pretty darn good. Got a guitar with 2 of these in it http://www.irongear.co.uk/irongear_014.htmAnd I think it sounds great. But then tone is all down to opinion. Almost every pickup available will have high quality demos for you to listen to, that'll give you a rough idea of how it will sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britheguy Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 When you say bland, what do you mean by that. Is there nothing you can tweak in your set up to counter act the blandness.?I find it hard to see past Wizard pickups, but I'm not sure how much they are these days. If you've not heard them I can let you hear my sg with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 When you say bland, what do you mean by that. Is there nothing you can tweak in your set up to counter act the blandness.?I find it hard to see past Wizard pickups, but I'm not sure how much they are these days. If you've not heard them I can let you hear my sg with them. When I had one, to my ears, the pickups just lacked any definition. The bass response was mushy, and there was no bite in the upper-mids. Even though a JCM2000, which is all about mids and top end. Stock LTD electronics are notoriously forgetabble, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 When you say bland, what do you mean by that. Is there nothing you can tweak in your set up to counter act the blandness.?I find it hard to see past Wizard pickups, but I'm not sure how much they are these days. If you've not heard them I can let you hear my sg with them. Well, if you want Wizard pickups, you'll have to find them second hand - the Wizard has retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britheguy Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Well, if you want Wizard pickups, you'll have to find them second hand - the Wizard has retired.well well, you learn something every day. Okay sorry YAmin. wrang spy. They were good pick ups though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavetheRave Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 +1 on these http://www.axetec.co.uk/guitar_parts_uk_055.htmAnd +1 on putting a Duncan JB in the bridge What amp you using, decent pickups/guitar will still sound crap if the amp isnt any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Moon Posted April 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I used to have one of those Ltd Vipers. Solid guitars. It was cheap, but for the money, it had a big sound. Massive body. I agree though. The stock electronics were garbage. I put a SD Dimebucker in at at the time, as I got it for free. It was surprisingly good, and sounded totally huge. Probably not the pickup for you though, as it's geared towards METAL. Just lob a Seymour Dunc JB in it. As versatile as it gets. Or get some HB sized P90s. Because P90s are the bestest. that's the guitar man esp ltd viper-50. i never thought i'd like it as i thought it was a bit gothic but i've never played such a ace guitar the neck is so fast. Well p90's were my first choice as i love them but to be honest i've never upgraded pickups in my life so i don't know much about them.+1 on P90s, They are the besterest. If you're working on a budget, try Irongear. Cheap and pretty darn good. Got a guitar with 2 of these in it http://www.irongear.co.uk/irongear_014.htmAnd I think it sounds great. But then tone is all down to opinion. Almost every pickup available will have high quality demos for you to listen to, that'll give you a rough idea of how it will sound.i wouldn't say money is an issue but theres no point spending all that money on a cheap guitar, i was eyeing up these When you say bland, what do you mean by that. Is there nothing you can tweak in your set up to counter act the blandness.?I find it hard to see past Wizard pickups, but I'm not sure how much they are these days. If you've not heard them I can let you hear my sg with them.no matter what settings i used it still sounded the same which was kinda tinny. wizard pickups are ace, my mate has them in his gibson sg, i hate the guitar its self but the pickups sound nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Moon Posted April 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 +1 on these http://www.axetec.co.uk/guitar_parts_uk_055.htmAnd +1 on putting a Duncan JB in the bridge What amp you using, decent pickups/guitar will still sound crap if the amp isnt any good?using my vox q series gt 100 right now, its an acoustic amp but does the job fine with all my other guitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasw88 Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Give the fella at oil city pickups a shout. He's damn good and well priced too.,Don't sniff at tonerider or irongear pickups as they are excellent. And also have a look at axesrus as well. He does a range of good sounding pickups at excellent prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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britheguy Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Sorry but that Tonerider clip was doing my head in. Why did the guy have to use so much fx for the demo. My pc is streaming very slow so I gave up after about 1.40 so it might have got better....I somehow doubt it. Maybe the PU are great, but I wouldn't be buying them on the back of the demo. IMO of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Moon Posted April 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) I know he used too much fx but it did sound great! I'll have to listen to a few more demos of them, they are within my budget which is good Edited April 20, 2014 by YoungA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runcie Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I've got a Seymour Duncan JB in the bridge and a Jazz in the neck of my SG and think they work really well. The SG with the standard pickups was a bit too "bitey" for me and the JB smoothed that out. The Jazz is ace for cleans too so a good wee combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Moon Posted April 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I've went and got a set of emg Zakk Wylde signatures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsby Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I was going to recommend Seymour Duncan PRails, P90 and humbucker in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Moon Posted April 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 To be honest I'm buying an Italia guitar soon and could do with a improved set if humbuckers also, mostly for the kinda style of two door cinema club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Moon Posted April 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 To be honest I'm buying an Italia guitar soon and could do with a improved set if humbuckers also, mostly for the kinda style of two door cinema club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 I've went and got a set of emg Zakk Wylde signatures Really? They are super high output. They pull off pinched harmonics just by looking at them. I thought you played clean poppy music? EMG's are geared towards contemporary heavy metal. Big punchy palm mutes and soaring leads. From my experience, they don't clean up so good. I've never been able to get a good low-gain tone out of them either. They always sound a bit hollow unless you're pushing them as far as they'll go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Moon Posted April 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 Really? They are super high output. They pull off pinched harmonics just by looking at them. I thought you played clean poppy music? EMG's are geared towards contemporary heavy metal. Big punchy palm mutes and soaring leads. From my experience, they don't clean up so good. I've never been able to get a good low-gain tone out of them either. They always sound a bit hollow unless you're pushing them as far as they'll go. I'm buying an Italia which is for the poppy stuff, the sg is for the heavy stuff that we do as a band as I'm the lead guitarist. I'm needing that kinda sound. P.s I can't do pinch harmonics so that's a bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Moon Posted April 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Someone also recommend tuners for it also as they don't hold tune very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colb Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 What's the point? You'll sell it in a week or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Moon Posted April 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 What's the point? You'll sell it in a week or two.now that's mean. I've got no need to sell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Jerk Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 As far as I'm aware, even the low-end LTD stuff has proper ESP tuners on them. I had tuning trouble to begin with when I had a Viper, but I got the nut replaced, and the tuning issues were gone. Seemed like a poorly filed nut was causing the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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