scottyboy Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Some interesting debate over a particular chord...http://uk.news.yahoo.com/mystery-beatles-chord-solved-171840692.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eupraxia Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 That's weird. It was one of the first songs I learned to play on the Argos Spanish classical guitar I bought with my pocket money when I was 16. The chord in the Beatles Chord Book sounded right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR!ΔNGL€ T€€TH Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I am going to have to go home and re-read what it says about that chord in Revolution in the Head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 That article is horseshit."We've solved the chord but WE'RE NOT FUCKING TELLING ANYONE."Pointless.xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flights Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I can't get on yahoo at work but isn't it just a Fadd9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroopy121 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I can't get on yahoo at work but isn't it just a Fadd9?It is one of the most famous sounds in the history of rock and roll.The clanging, opening chord at the start of the 1964 Beatles hit A Hard Day's Night is instantly recognisable. Yet, as many musicians have discovered, every attempt to reproduce it seems to sound wrong.A British mathematician now claims to have got closer than anyone else to solving the decades old musical mystery.Dr Kevin Houston, from the University of Leeds, used sophisticated software to split up the sound on the record into its component frequencies. Presented on a computer screen, a pattern was revealed showing which notes were most prominent.The results suggest a much simpler solution than one proposed four years ago by another scientist from Canada. Professor Jason Brown, from Dalhousie University, maintained that missing guitar notes were replaced by Beatles producer George Martin playing a piano. Buried in the background behind the guitars, the piano is hard to hear. Yet according to Prof Brown it provides the vital musical spark that makes the chord so distinctive.Dr Houston does not dispute that the piano is there, but challenges its importance. His believes George Harrison was playing a straightforward F add9 on his 12-string electric Rickenbacker guitar, rather than the unusual fingering indicated by Prof Brown.At the same time, Harrison appears to have had his thumb curled round the neck of the guitar, pressing down the bottom E string at the first fret. This is a common technique among self-taught pop and rock guitarists. Dr Houston also established that John Lennon was playing the same chord on an acoustic guitar. On the stereo track, Harrison and Lennon are heard on different speakers."The opening chord to A Hard Day's Night is a mystery," said Dr Houston, who was speaking today at the British Science Festival at the University of Aberdeen."It turns out that nobody really knows what it is. People who do know are a bit cagey about it. George Martin probably knows quite well but I think he's quite happy not to tell people. I wouldn't like to say that we've definitely got it right, but I think we've put the record straighter. It makes mathematical and musical sense."xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flights Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 A chord on a 12 string guitar from the 60's sounded odd? Most likely out of tune no? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 That article is horseshit."We've solved the chord but WE'RE NOT FUCKING TELLING ANYONE."Pointless.xxIt says it was a "straightforward" Fadd9 with a low F on the E string. So the "tab" fingering methinks that would be low to high: 3,1,2,3,x,1. I'd never heard the intro to this track, but checking it I think, yeah it's out of tune. But I also think there might be some more dissonant extension (#11?) in the piano part underneath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Owl PhD Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I went to the talk that Houston gave at the Science Festival and he went through the various bits that made up the chord. I don't remember what they were though! They recreated it pretty convincingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milner Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I never realised there was so much fuss over one chord! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colb Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I play a D7sus4 with an F bass, sounds pretty close to me, doubles up as the first chord to here comes your man too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeornothing Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I don't do chord names...but I always played it-1--1--0--0--0--3-sounds alright to me...it seems to be a different chord they play on different takes...think I have heard three versions...the one with the shimmery intro is definetly a different chord from the version everyone knows...of course I havent heard it in about 10 years...haha now I've listened to it and it sounds nothing like it....oh well.....it will be a combination of two chords, bass and piano....all of which will be recorded on one track along with the drums vocals and hand claps, track 2 kept spare for out of time tambourine and the odd backing vocals, panned hard left and right because no one at home will ever have 2 speakers anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted September 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 I play a D7sus4 with an F bass, sounds pretty close to me, doubles up as the first chord to here comes your man too.....Not sure what the fingering for that'd be, but that's the same notes as Fadd9... Dunno what 110003 is, assuming it's a G then G7sus2sus4 I guess.I meant high-to-low with the fingering I gave above: 3,1,2,3,x,1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colb Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 High to low i'm playing:3-1-2-0-0-1 so almost exactly the sameAny of D or F chord is gonna be pretty close i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davetherave Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 60s tape technology may have something to do with the odd sounding chord, pitch may have been off slightly due to tape speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flights Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Yeah I agree that the quality of the recording may have something to do with the chord sounding odd. To be honest until this thread I never really noticed it sounding odd. I've got a Beatles chord book lying around somewhere and I'm pretty sure it's down as an Fadd9 in it. Might be for playing one of the few different versions though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tam o' Shantie Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 SMH at this nerd shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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