Fast Caz Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Originally posted by lepeep:wasn't it obelisc and inextremis that were doing all the death metal supports in the early 90's ?(cancer, bolt thrower, paradise lost etc)...all those gigs were on in "churchills" (upstairs), I think it was called "ceasars" back then.Wasn't Daz (from the dawntreaders) , the drummer in Obelisc ? Cancer aswell ...... DAMMIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highroller Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Dan and i will both say that Icon and Draconian Times are awesome records...Very heavy and beautiful...total gothic doom/death metal while still being uncheesy and VERY tasteful...The way that gregor macintosh (lead guitar) adds a very gothic feel by doing lead guitar melodies over just about everything...They are not into speed pretty much at all...Did you know that Icon sold faster (but obviously not more) than the black album in germany...? Some said that Icon was better than the black album...I prefer Draconian by a whisker...dans take will be good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Originally posted by Dechristianise:The older Paradise lost was quite good i have some of their songs on a peacevile sampler Dan and Ben what would their best album to check out? No Ben, I like Shades of god but the songs aren't THAT good and the production is a bit thin!Calum, I'd suggest you buy "Icon" It's heavy, got amazing songs but also a sound that was like no one else.If you want their death stuff, go for "Gothic". I think it's balls but much better than Lost Paradise.To me, Paradide Lost have a very similar path to Carcass in terms of progression/production on albums etc:Lost Paradise = Reek Of PutrifactionGothic = SymphoniesShades Of God = NecroticismIcon = HeartworkDraconian Times = Swansong(then PL did a bunch of really crappy albums after that, whereas Carcass split up) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allsystemsfail Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Originally posted by Dan Atom:I was kinda lucky, I got into all those bands when they were at their best formParadise Lost - Icon/Draconian Times Napalm Death - Greed Killing/Inside The Torn ApartCarcass - Heartwork (although not properly into them til later)Bolt Thrower - heard them but never got into themBut even though I was into them, I was still kinda young and no one else I knew would go to those sort of gigs! I have to disagree regarding Napalm Death. Their debut full length "Scum"? Well, little comes close, the guys then still a part of the punk community, as was Earache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Dranonian Times ... what is the album cover like ?i think the cavern may have it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highroller Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Calum, if i had the time to go to heaps more shows i would...the thing is GOOD death metal bands arent coming up now and if one plays glasgow..like a reformed obituary or carcass then im sure dan and i would go down so therefore you could come with us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highroller Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 the album cover is very colourful and has a womans head on the cover in a very statue like look and lots of like flowers and a shell around it...its pretty weird... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Reformed Obituary soon like lol they are playing a few dates in USACarcass will never reform wouldn't be good for them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepeep Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 I was going to say that that list to me was when those bands had become "too grown up"!carcass peaked with descanting the insalubrious (spelling ?!)ND peaked on Harmony CorruptionBoltthrower still grinding out their same sound, but to me, warmaster is AMAZING...but I suppose it all just depends on when you actaully got into the music, and when you "got out" of it (not that you ever go off your historical musical taste)...for me, deathmetal from 1989 - 1994, the best times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highroller Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 haha does anyone remember skyclad...hahahahahafucking awful...it was like folk death metal with a fiddle or violin...The little fat frontman guy was such a tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Even tho i wasn't alive for most of it1986 - 1994 was the best of itit went fromCeltic Frost - 1986Carcass/Napalm Death - 1988Cannibal Corpse/Pungent Stench/Autopsy - 1990and after it was Carcass and napalm death again and after it all the death metal stuff lost its touch and all sounded the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Ben's answer is awesome.Here's more of a synopsis;Icon, is really heavy but somewhat beautiful too. Every song is great and like Ben says, there are lead melodies over everything which totally add to the gothic vibe. Classy but totally none cheesy doom metal.Draconian Times took the Icon formula but mixed it with (arguably) even stronger songs and made PL untouchable at what they did. The song's were awesome and super-memorable, and although not quite as heavy it was equally as dark.I also prefer Draconian Times by a whisker, but that's only like saying that a Blow job with a mars bar afterwards is better than a blow job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepeep Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 from newcastle...fecking crap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highroller Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 to dan and lepeep.nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 I will get Icon and Draconian Times and get back to you both . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allsystemsfail Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Originally posted by lepeep:wasn't it obelisc and inextremis that were doing all the death metal supports in the early 90's ?(cancer, bolt thrower, paradise lost etc)...all those gigs were on in "churchills" (upstairs), I think it was called "ceasars" back then.Wasn't Daz (from the dawntreaders) , the drummer in Obelisc ?Yes they were. Both Obelisk and Inextremis did indeed play death metal supports back then.Hey, Ceasers, that's right.Shit, I'd forgotten that Daz was a member of The Dawntreaders. Think the last time I saw Daz was just after we'd both caught Christian Death at the Pelican Club late '92. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Fucking Christian Death aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highroller Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 yeah do that calum...i hope you will love these records...i still go back to them now and again...timeless is what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 I reckon i will do cause they both sound like epic albums Cheers guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepeep Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Dechristianise...and fudge tunnel in the pelli (sorry)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepeep Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 how can a mars bar give you a blow job, especially if you just spuffed yer wad from a blowjob from a boy/girl (not fussy...he he) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest highroller Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 i could be totally wrong here ok...but wasnt the girl in bolt thrower totally cute?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 I used to think you were a pretty cool guy it sounds like tere was a good metal up here every week or soas long as Morbid Angel or Celtic Frsot aint bee up here then i will put my axe down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Caz Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Originally posted by Ben Quik:i could be totally wrong here ok...but wasnt the girl in bolt thrower totally cute?? Girl in bolt thrower??might have been a girl in the bandthe girl in sinister is rather tasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan G Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Wasn't Andy Sneap in Skyclad....? I know he was in Sabbat - but I'm sure some awesome producer was in Skyclad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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