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good album! i just picked up blue by capsule. stuff is pretty insane. if you like off teh chain mathy hardcore thats not drowned in tech; CAPSULE on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads

get walls, dude. flippinnnnn awwweeesome.

oh boy, i'm smitten with that girl. good album too! just picked up the grown ups cd demo and the new teenage cool kids lp.

nice one lads

did they play fingers? FULL ROUND OF APPLAUSE. 50/50 over making this glasgow show (but hopefully). ALSO; well done guys, obvs. did anyone get any pics/vids of guy?

ok. i understand the compatible thing - i just don't understand why it needs to be compared to something in the west. like in iraq - most iraqi's were receptive to democracy, but were suspicious of american sponsorship. the moment you start talking about western compatibility like its something we need to help them achieve... i don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong with the combination of islam and politics in the middle east, as long as its wanted, fair, democratic and legitimate - there are plenty of political islam reformist who are promoting to these ends. its just they haven't found a suitable framework (iran not being one obvs). and of course there's a still a 'war on terror'. its just obama has just realised that its wrong to focus on one group and one man. the convenient and reassuring idea that bumping off some bearded sod waving a soviet rifle in the hills would make it all go away.

whoops. i wish you could delete posts.

i'm sorry, but where do these non moderate people live then? a specific country? and 'western compatibility'?!?! jeez, you're as bad as the the orientalists! (technically they don't live under and islamic regime because there is no palestine state but whatever) hamas still have a HUGE following in palestine. despite being (basically) the most violent terrorist movement of the 90's, the alternatives have been corrupt and illegitimate. most of all though, its their resistance of the occupation that has made them so popular. i don't really understand your last point, but this (and that) is a whole other can of worms.

there were numbers from an 'unnamed source' from the iran interior ministry which put mousavi at something like 57%. not only that, but the same source claimed that the outcome was put together and organised BEFORE the election took place. i have no idea how reputable this source is though - i'm just repeating what was in the guardian a few days ago. well we can pussy foot around the details of huntington's arguement if you want, but the main crux of it is that the west and islam will never be able to hold hands; iran is an islamic republic, so i think it sort of does apply! but that doens't matter - my point was that both blair and bush cited his work in forming a view of the middle east - something which obama has cancelled out. what do you mean by the same is true for palestine?

well of course it lacks a little definition - he's hardly that far into his term! he's definitely plunged in at the deep end - an israel and palestine solution is hardly something to be snuffed at. rhetoric counts for a lot here i think. we've not had a US president that has taken on the middle east with such immediacy in...a long time? did you see his speech in cario last week? that was an outstanding and even daring move! not only did he demolish all the previous bush foreign policy along with the 'huntingtonised' clash of civilisations, he talked of how islam has played a major role in shaping the US, and that the broad brush strokes of orientalists have only seen to deepened/entrenched any problems. i think any progress in iran over this will be domestically driven. even calls by the govt. of western interference have already been cited as bogus. iranians are too nationalist to let the west, specifically the US, to take claim for any change.

i can't really see this happenings anymore. i think we've seen the worst between the US and Iran (obviously you can't be certain though). i think the election of obama and the clear sign for an end to a regime and mindset that seems centered on exclusion from the international community means another hostage crisis is unlikely. as mentioned above, obama made the right call. i'm not sure how bush would have reacted; he'd want amademajad out as much as the next guy. maybe he would have sent in US representatives to watch over a new election of something.

by surprise/hightide hotel split katie the pest/sterling says split one up downstairs - s/t what price wonderland - it is true it is shakey city centre - s/t fred thomas - sink like a symphony fred thomas - everything is pretty much totally fucked

heading for another 1979? what do people think?

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that thread seems pretty bad - i've not take the time to read most of it though, but i'm sure there's a fair amount of people taking the piss. there are some elitist arseholes as there are everywhere - it's not board specific. decent board with some great people, i think.

hey david. yeah - they're amazing. talked about briefly in the giraffes thread here; http://www.aberdeen-music.com/forums/music-discussion/55677-giraffes-giraffes.html such a tight band. the hey sandy track is part of a covers release they did (other covers include the pixies and weezer). pretty sure the band stuck the whole thing up for free to download. it'll be interesting to hear how the 'real' new stuff sounds with the new drummer. apart from that the self titled is amazing. seriously can't get over how they manage to pack so much energy/talent/hooks into songs like that. theres the split with a band called by the end of tonight (that side isn't so great), too, and the drugs to the dear youth ep - some folk don't dig it cos of the vox on some tracks but i think the stuff is just as good. maybe a bit poppier/fun! also one of the craziest live bands ever. this isn't some prerequisite to them coming over the uk and doing shows is it?

oh i seeee.

ask who?! who does them? if it needs to be sat night then that doesn't really work anyway : [

how do you go about doing a gig at toms?

video is even better; pete & pete!

yeah, this band are crucial. more skin with milk-mouth is tots rad - apparently the new album is out soon? don't really see the lightning bolt thing. sound really like a band called tera melos - tera melos on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads - and even hella at times.

season 2 is probably my favourite. although the last 4 or 5 of season 3...jeeeez, man.

yeah, i use covers33 as well. pretty decent despite charging me twice for the one order.

back when they had light the fuse and fun/yage/ten grand etcc...what a label!

you already know what i think! i thought the recordings were pretty neato, especially even after myspace had their way. HIGHFIVE